Guest Frank Posted October 12, 2017 at 07:38 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 at 07:38 PM We have a 5 member HOA board. If a vote is held to approve a proposal and the Treasurer doesn't vote in a timely manner, is his vote necessary if the vote for the cost has already been approved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted October 12, 2017 at 08:09 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 at 08:09 PM I don't really understand the question. Was the treasurer at the meeting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Goodwiller, PRP Posted October 12, 2017 at 08:25 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 at 08:25 PM It sounds as though you are talking about some sort of vote taken outside of a meeting. The rules in Robert's Rules pertain to voting processes within meetings. If you take votes other than at a meeting, you must look to your own rules for guidance about the requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted October 12, 2017 at 09:20 PM Report Share Posted October 12, 2017 at 09:20 PM Guest Frank, unless you have a customized rule to the contrary, nobody's individual vote is essential for the passage of a motion. All that is required is that the motion receives the required number of votes. It doesn't matter which members those votes come from. If we are misunderstanding your situation or your question, please clarify it for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transpower Posted October 16, 2017 at 01:47 PM Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 at 01:47 PM Unless your rules say otherwise, a five-member board would require that at least three members be present to have a valid meeting. Then, to pass a motion, with three members present, two would have to vote in favor. If four members are present, then three would have to vote in favor. So, if the treasurer is absent, and you have at least three votes in the affirmative, the motion carries, regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted October 16, 2017 at 02:46 PM Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 at 02:46 PM 56 minutes ago, Transpower said: Unless your rules say otherwise, a five-member board would require that at least three members be present to have a valid meeting. Then, to pass a motion, with three members present, two would have to vote in favor. If four members are present, then three would have to vote in favor. So, if the treasurer is absent, and you have at least three votes in the affirmative, the motion carries, regardless. If the rules in RONR are controlling, I'm afraid that none of this appears to be correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted October 18, 2017 at 05:50 AM Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 at 05:50 AM (edited) On 10/16/2017 at 9:47 AM, Transpower said: Unless your rules say otherwise, a five-member board would require that at least three members be present to have a valid meeting. Then, to pass a motion, with three members present, two would have to vote in favor. If four members are present, then three would have to vote in favor. So, if the treasurer is absent, and you have at least three votes in the affirmative, the motion carries, regardless. As long as a quorum is present At a regular or properly called meeting, only one vote is required to approve a motion, as long as that one vote constitutes a majority of those voting. What you have described is only true if a majority of all present is required, and that is certainly not the regular rule. Edited October 18, 2017 at 05:04 PM by Gary Novosielski amended as indicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary c Tesser Posted October 18, 2017 at 08:51 AM Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 at 08:51 AM [Never mind about this. How do ya delete a mis-quote box?] On 10/16/2017 at 10:46 AM, Daniel H. Honemann said: On 10/16/2017 at 9:47 AM, Transpower said: Unless your rules say otherwise, a five-member board would require that at least three members be present to have a valid meeting 3 hours ago, Gary Novosielski said: f the rules in RONR are controlling, I'm afraid that none of this appears to be correct. Pfui. I'm going to see if I can just post the putrid congeries and then just delete it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary c Tesser Posted October 18, 2017 at 08:54 AM Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 at 08:54 AM OK, starting from scratch. On 10/16/2017 at 9:47 AM, Transpower said: Unless your rules say otherwise, a five-member board would require that at least three members be present to have a valid meeting. On 10/16/2017 at 10:46 AM, Daniel H. Honemann said: If the rules in RONR are controlling, I'm afraid that none of this appears to be correct. IF you please, what's wrong with Transpower's first sentence? (Is it that the absence of a quorum does not invalidate that the meeting was held?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted October 18, 2017 at 10:45 AM Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 at 10:45 AM 4 hours ago, Gary Novosielski said: As long as a quorum is present, only one vote is required to approve a motion, as long as that one vote constitutes a majority of those voting. What you have described is only true if a majority of all present is required, and that is certainly not the regular rule. And this is true even if a quorum is not present at a regular or properly called meeting. There are, as you know, some motions which are properly made and voted on even in the absence of a quorum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transpower Posted October 19, 2017 at 10:18 AM Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 at 10:18 AM I am, of course, assuming no abstentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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