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Does an amendment to change the dollar amount of a motion (a type of substitution) if passed then require a vote on the main motion for the content of the motion apart from the dollar amount?

eg: motion to donate $500 to the Girl Guides, seconded. Then with amendment, seconded to donate $750 to the Girl Guides.

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39 minutes ago, Guest Mike said:

Does an amendment to change the dollar amount of a motion (a type of substitution) if passed then require a vote on the main motion for the content of the motion apart from the dollar amount?

eg: motion to donate $500 to the Girl Guides, seconded. Then with amendment, seconded to donate $750 to the Girl Guides.

A better way to think about the amendment is that it is changing what the dollar amount of the donation will be if the main motion is adopted. A proper amendment is not "to donate $750 to the Girl Guides", but rather "to strike out '$500' and insert '$750'".

The chair puts the amendment to vote like this: "The question is on striking out '$500' and inserting '$750', so that if this amendment is adopted, the main motion will be 'to donate $750 to the Girl Guides'. Those in favor of striking out '$500' and inserting '$750', say aye. . . . Those opposed, say no."

If the amendment is adopted, the chair then says, "The question is on the main motion as amended, 'to donate $750 to the Girl Guides'".

Note that an amendment to change the dollar amount is a motion to strike out and insert, not a motion to substitute. The same thing could be accomplished by a motion to substitute, but a vote would still have to be taken on the main motion in its amended form (i.e., as worded in the substitute). A motion to substitute would be "I move to substitute the following for the pending motion: 'To donate $750 to the Girl Guides'". (This is not the same thing as a motion simply "to donate $750 to the Girl Guides", which is not in order when another motion is pending.)

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41 minutes ago, Guest Mike said:

Does an amendment to change the dollar amount of a motion (a type of substitution) if passed then require a vote on the main motion for the content of the motion apart from the dollar amount?

eg: motion to donate $500 to the Girl Guides, seconded. Then with amendment, seconded to donate $750 to the Girl Guides.

Yes.

Amendments, if agreed to by a majority vote, change the language of the motion under consideration, but do not adopt the motion.

It's quite possible that a person will vote for an amendment yet vote against final approval of the motion.  For example, suppose a motion is made to paint the clubhouse red.   Now suppose that you don't believe the clubhouse needs painting, and that you think that if it is painted, red would be the worst color.  Someone (maybe even you) could move to amend the motion by striking the word red and inserting the word white.

If the amendment is agreed to, the motion changes to a motion to paint the clubhouse white

When debate and other motions including other amendments are done, and the motion comes up for a final vote, you may still vote No because you don't want any painting done, but at least if the motion passes, you won't have to look at a red clubhouse.

 

 

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