Guest AMarquis Posted March 5, 2022 at 05:47 PM Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 at 05:47 PM In the event of a tie, and the motion fails for lack of a majority, is reconsideration possible? If so, since there is no prevailing team, who can reconsider the motion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted March 5, 2022 at 05:54 PM Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 at 05:54 PM If the motion fails, those who voted against it are on the prevailing side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 5, 2022 at 08:40 PM Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 at 08:40 PM (edited) On 3/5/2022 at 12:47 PM, Guest AMarquis said: In the event of a tie, and the motion fails for lack of a majority, is reconsideration possible? If so, since there is no prevailing team, who can reconsider the motion? Since a tie vote rejects the motion, those who voted No have prevailed. Edited March 5, 2022 at 08:40 PM by Gary Novosielski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zev Posted March 6, 2022 at 02:53 AM Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 at 02:53 AM I would feel a little bit better if I knew what kind of motion was rejected since some motions can be reconsidered while others cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted March 6, 2022 at 03:44 AM Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 at 03:44 AM Me, too, Zev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted March 6, 2022 at 01:53 PM Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 at 01:53 PM On 3/5/2022 at 9:53 PM, Guest Zev said: I would feel a little bit better if I knew what kind of motion was rejected since some motions can be reconsidered while others cannot. But it remains the case that those who vote no are on the prevailing side, which is why I answered as I did. What it means for reconsider varies, I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 9, 2022 at 01:32 AM Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 at 01:32 AM On 3/5/2022 at 9:53 PM, Guest Zev said: I would feel a little bit better if I knew what kind of motion was rejected since some motions can be reconsidered while others cannot. But surely that would not change the definition of which side prevailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted March 9, 2022 at 06:30 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 at 06:30 PM Zev is trying to point us to List VII at RONR (12th ed.) t50-51. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted March 9, 2022 at 08:26 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 at 08:26 PM On 3/5/2022 at 12:47 PM, Guest AMarquis said: In the event of a tie, and the motion fails for lack of a majority, is reconsideration possible? If so, since there is no prevailing team, who can reconsider the motion? Apparently the answers given so far remain unsatisfactory to some, so let me take a stab at this. In the event of a tie and the motion fails for lack of a majority in the affirmative, reconsideration is possible under the same conditions as it would be if the motion had failed for lack of a majority in the affirmative but the vote was not tied. In all such cases, members who voted in the negative are indeed members who voted on the prevailing side and are eligible to move to reconsider when having voted on the prevailing side determines such eligibility. (But only the voting body itself may actually "reconsider the motion", by adopting the motion to reconsider.) There are of course many reasons why reconsideration might not be possible in a given situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted March 9, 2022 at 08:31 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 at 08:31 PM In other words, On 3/5/2022 at 12:54 PM, Joshua Katz said: If the motion fails, those who voted against it are on the prevailing side. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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