Tomm Posted June 13, 2022 at 10:25 PM Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 at 10:25 PM If, for instance, there is a Standing Committee, titled "Long Range Planning Committee"; would it be appropriate for that committee to create an additional special committee to pursue some other related task such as generating a questionnaire to be presented to the general membership asking what they would desire to have in the future for the organization? 50:10 seems to say that the Standing Committee should perform related tasks itself with no authority to create a committee within that committee? Wouldn't the creation of that questionnaire be part of the original responsibly tasked to the Standing Long Range Planning Committee...looking into future needs? The assigned function of the committee is: "H. Long Range Planning Committee: The purpose of the Long Range Planning Committee is to provide the Board with reports, recommendations, and suggestions regarding the future needs of Members and a suggested timeframe to implement future facilities and programs to meet those needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted June 13, 2022 at 10:36 PM Report Share Posted June 13, 2022 at 10:36 PM (edited) On 6/13/2022 at 5:25 PM, Tomm said: If, for instance, there is a Standing Committee, titled "Long Range Planning Committee"; would it be appropriate for that committee to create an additional special committee to pursue some other related task such as generating a questionnaire to be presented to the general membership asking what they would desire to have in the future for the organization? No, but the committee could create a subcommittee for this purpose. The committee may create such a committee on its own authority, unless the committee wishes to appoint persons who are not members of the committee, in which event approval is required from the parent assembly. "A committee (except a committee of the whole, 52) can appoint subcommittees, which are responsible to and report to the committee and not to the assembly. Subcommittees must consist of members of the committee, except when otherwise authorized by the society in cases where the committee is appointed to take action that requires the assistance of others." RONR (12th ed.) 50:15 On 6/13/2022 at 5:25 PM, Tomm said: 50:10 seems to say that the Standing Committee should perform related tasks itself with no authority to create a committee within that committee? "A special committee may not be appointed to perform a task that falls within the assigned function of an existing standing committee." RONR (12th ed.) 50:10 This rule has nothing to do with subcommittees. The purpose of this rule is to prevent the creation of a separate committee when there is already a standing committee with the assigned task, to avoid duplication of work/conflicts/etc. A subcommittee is a part of and reports to its parent committee, so the same concerns are not applicable. On 6/13/2022 at 5:25 PM, Tomm said: Wouldn't the creation of that questionnaire be part of the original responsibly tasked to the Standing Long Range Planning Committee...looking into future needs? The assigned function of the committee is: "H. Long Range Planning Committee: The purpose of the Long Range Planning Committee is to provide the Board with reports, recommendations, and suggestions regarding the future needs of Members and a suggested timeframe to implement future facilities and programs to meet those needs. I am generally in agreement that a questionnaire which relates to a committee's duties is within the scope of the committee's duties. Nonetheless, the committee is certainly free to appoint a subset of its members as a subcommittee to perform tasks related to the questionnaire (or other tasks), acting under the direction of the full committee. Edited June 13, 2022 at 10:37 PM by Josh Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Fund Posted June 14, 2022 at 02:20 AM Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 at 02:20 AM On 6/13/2022 at 6:36 PM, Josh Martin said: "A committee (except a committee of the whole, 52) can appoint subcommittees, which are responsible to and report to the committee and not to the assembly. Subcommittees must consist of members of the committee, except when otherwise authorized by the society in cases where the committee is appointed to take action that requires the assistance of others." RONR (12th ed.) 50:15 Could a committee chair created a "task force" of limited appointed members to perform, in part, tasks that the larger group was established to and has always performed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted June 14, 2022 at 10:18 AM Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 at 10:18 AM The subject of the sentence provided by Mr. Martin is "committee", not chairman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted June 14, 2022 at 11:28 AM Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 at 11:28 AM On 6/13/2022 at 9:20 PM, Dyson Fund said: Could a committee chair created a "task force" of limited appointed members to perform, in part, tasks that the larger group was established to and has always performed? The committee chair, acting alone, could not do so. But the committee could do so if it wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted June 14, 2022 at 12:25 PM Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 at 12:25 PM On 6/14/2022 at 7:28 AM, Josh Martin said: The committee chair, acting alone, could not do so. But the committee could do so if it wishes. Does the general principle in 49:12 relating to delegation of authority by boards have equal application to committees? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Fund Posted June 14, 2022 at 04:25 PM Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 at 04:25 PM On 6/14/2022 at 7:28 AM, Josh Martin said: The committee chair, acting alone, could not do so. But the committee could do so if it wishes. TY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted June 14, 2022 at 04:35 PM Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 at 04:35 PM On 6/14/2022 at 7:25 AM, Dan Honemann said: Does the general principle in 49:12 relating to delegation of authority by boards have equal application to committees? Yes, I think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted June 14, 2022 at 05:37 PM Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 at 05:37 PM So do I, and that's why I think we need more facts before responding to the question posed by Dyson Fund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted June 14, 2022 at 05:40 PM Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 at 05:40 PM I am inclined to agree with Mr. Martin, but I cannot provide a citation to back me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted June 14, 2022 at 10:29 PM Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 at 10:29 PM On 6/13/2022 at 10:20 PM, Dyson Fund said: Could a committee chair created a "task force" of limited appointed members to perform, in part, tasks that the larger group was established to and has always performed? No. A committee chairman has no authority to appoint subcommittees, task forces, swat teams, seal teams, or similar bodies. The committee chair presides over committee meetings, and facilitates the committee's deliberations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyson Fund Posted June 14, 2022 at 11:16 PM Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 at 11:16 PM On 6/14/2022 at 6:29 PM, Gary Novosielski said: No. A committee chairman has no authority to appoint subcommittees, task forces, swat teams, seal teams, or similar bodies. The committee chair presides over committee meetings, and facilitates the committee's deliberations. WOW!!! I needed this laugh. Thanks for the reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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