J. J. Posted December 17, 2023 at 08:31 PM Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2023 at 08:31 PM On 12/17/2023 at 3:15 PM, Rob Elsman said: The motion to expel a member is fully executed as soon as it is adopted, so there is nothing left to lift or reverse later. That's why an affirmative vote cannot be reconsidered or brought back before the assembly a second time. He's gone—period. If he desires to be readmitted, he will have to apply for admission in the usual way and meet all the qualifications for admission to membership. He may submit an application if and when he meets the qualifications. The words "expel," "remove," or even "kick out," do not appear in the motion. He would not be expelled as a result of adopting the motion as a penalty in a disciplinary procedure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted December 18, 2023 at 02:52 PM Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 at 02:52 PM Okay. I'm back to what I said before. This whole topic is just a figment of your imagination, and the answers will likewise be found in your imagination. I've done the best I could, so I'm out of here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted December 18, 2023 at 04:00 PM Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2023 at 04:00 PM On 12/18/2023 at 9:52 AM, Rob Elsman said: Okay. I'm back to what I said before. This whole topic is just a figment of your imagination, and the answers will likewise be found in your imagination. I've done the best I could, so I'm out of here. And I have posted where you can find numerous example. I am sure that anyone interested can google the fraternity previously mentioned. Pretending it is not there will not make it go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 19, 2023 at 02:51 AM Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 at 02:51 AM On 12/17/2023 at 3:15 PM, Rob Elsman said: The motion to expel a member is fully executed as soon as it is adopted, so there is nothing left to lift or reverse later. Yes. However this motion was not one to expel but rather to suspend the rights of membership, for an indefinite period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted December 19, 2023 at 02:55 AM Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 at 02:55 AM There is no such thing in the common parliamentary law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 19, 2023 at 03:01 AM Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 at 03:01 AM On 12/18/2023 at 9:55 PM, Rob Elsman said: There is no such thing in the common parliamentary law. Yet somehow, rights can be suspended as a result of discipline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted December 19, 2023 at 03:02 AM Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 at 03:02 AM Yes, indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted December 19, 2023 at 05:26 AM Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 at 05:26 AM On 12/18/2023 at 9:55 PM, Rob Elsman said: There is no such thing in the common parliamentary law. There is in the 12th edition of RONR (61:2). At no point is there a hint that the duration of the suspension is limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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