CNH Posted October 21, 2010 at 07:22 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 at 07:22 PM As the chairman of a group I know that I should refrain from entering debate on most occasions. However, at our last meeting a member made an incorrect statement during debate. I waited a few moments after he finished speaking to see if someone was going to correct him, but none did. I then felt that I had to provide the correct information, and I did so. Was my action appropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted October 21, 2010 at 08:16 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 at 08:16 PM As the chairman of a group I know that I should refrain from entering debate on most occasions. However, at our last meeting a member made an incorrect statement during debate. I waited a few moments after he finished speaking to see if someone was going to correct him, but none did. I then felt that I had to provide the correct information, and I did so. Was my action appropriate?Probably not. See RONR(10th ed.), p. 382. However, if this is a small board or committee, the chair can debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted October 21, 2010 at 08:57 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 at 08:57 PM Regardless of the size of the assembly, I think it's fine for the chair to make a factual correction. For example, if during debate on a motion to donate money, a member stated that there was $1000. in the bank account as of today, blah blah blah, I think it's ok for the chair to point out the balance is $900 if he knows that's the correct amount. If the chair is careful, it will come off as nothing more than a casual factual correction and not look like he's advocating something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:01 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:01 PM Regardless of the size of the assembly, I think it's fine for the chair to make a factual correction. For example, if during debate on a motion to donate money, a member stated that there was $1000. in the bank account as of today, blah blah blah, I think it's ok for the chair to point out the balance is $900 if he knows that's the correct amount. If the chair is careful, it will come off as nothing more than a casual factual correction and not look like he's advocating something.I agree with Mr. Mervosh. Just offering a fact is hardly participation in debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:09 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:09 PM I concur with Mr. Mervosh, as well, though it should not become a practice for the chair to critique the accuracy of members' debate. The "correction" could have just as easily been in the nature of debate, though. There's no way for us to know what this "incorrect" statement was. Oh, wait. Yes, there is. We could ask CNH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:13 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:13 PM I concur with Mr. Mervosh, as well, though it should not become a practice for the chair to critique the accuracy of members' debate. The "correction" could have just as easily been in the nature of debate, though. There's no way for us to know what this "incorrect" statement was. Oh, wait. Yes, there is. We could ask CNH. Hopefully, it doesn't start with, "Frank, you are a liar and you know it..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:19 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 at 10:19 PM Hopefully, it doesn't start with, "Frank, you are a liar and you know it..." I envision it being something like, "If this motion is adopted, it will devastate the community." The correction being, "No it won't." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNH Posted October 22, 2010 at 04:56 AM Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 at 04:56 AM Thanks for the input. I appreciate the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted October 22, 2010 at 03:44 PM Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 at 03:44 PM As the chairman of a group I know that I should refrain from entering debate on most occasions. However, at our last meeting a member made an incorrect statement during debate. I waited a few moments after he finished speaking to see if someone was going to correct him, but none did. I then felt that I had to provide the correct information, and I did so. Was my action appropriate?Do you mean, like correcting an error in speaking? Like a Freudian slip?***Sample script:CHAIR: I am sure the member meant, "raise [i.e., build up] the new clubhouse," and not "raze [i.e., tear down] the new clubhouse."orCHAIR: I think the treasurer misspoke when the treasurer said we are "$1.1 billion in the red," when the graph shows that we are actually "$1.1 million in the red."*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNH Posted October 23, 2010 at 06:43 PM Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 at 06:43 PM What happened was that the member said that we had donated $1,000 to a particular group since January 1, 2010. In fact, we had donated $4,000 to said group since 1/1/10.CNH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted October 23, 2010 at 06:59 PM Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 at 06:59 PM What happened was that the member said that we had donated $1,000 to a particular group since January 1, 2010. In fact, we had donated $4,000 to said group since 1/1/10.CNHDon't worry about it. The presiding officer did no more than he would have done in response to a Point of Information, if one had been asked of him. He did nothing that would put in jeopardy his appearance of impartiality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted October 23, 2010 at 11:42 PM Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 at 11:42 PM Don't worry about it. The presiding officer did no more than he would have done in response to a Point of Information, if one had been asked of him. He did nothing that would put in jeopardy his appearance of impartiality.It's not as bad as I feared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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