Guest guest student Posted October 21, 2011 at 01:19 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 at 01:19 PM Do nonmembers (students) have a right to attend or speak at open (student senate) meetings?Can the chair delegate rules for a specific time when nonmembers can speak at a meeting without it being voted on by the members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted October 21, 2011 at 01:23 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 at 01:23 PM Do nonmembers (students) have a right to attend or speak at open (student senate) meetings?Can the chair delegate rules for a specific time when nonmembers can speak at a meeting without it being voted on by the members?One answer: No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burke Balch Posted October 21, 2011 at 01:27 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 at 01:27 PM This is covered by the "Public Session" subsection in RONR(11th ed.), pp. 96-7. The most relevant portion for your question is:A deliberative assembly or committee is normally entitled to determine whether nonmembers may attend or be excluded from its meetings (even when not in executive session). . . . In meetings of many public bodies, such as school boards, the public may attend. Similarly, in some private organizations such as church councils, parishioners may be permitted to attend. These attendees are not members of the meeting body and ordinarily have no right to participate. Some bodies, especially public ones, may invite nonmembers to express their views, but this is done under the control of the presiding officer subject to any relevant rules adopted by the body and subject to appeal by a member. Often, by rule or practice, time limits are placed on speakers and relevance is closely monitored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted October 24, 2011 at 12:33 AM Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 at 12:33 AM This is covered by the "Public Session" subsection in RONR(11th ed.), pp. 96-7. The most relevant portion for your question is:<quote quote quote>Speaking of which, is the text available on CD yet? I mean to people other than the authors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted October 24, 2011 at 12:35 AM Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 at 12:35 AM Speaking of which, is the text available on CD yet? I mean to people other than the authors.I prefer the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burke Balch Posted October 24, 2011 at 01:26 PM Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 at 01:26 PM Speaking of which, is the text available on CD yet? I mean to people other than the authors.No. We're still at work on the CD contents (the "value-added" material, not the text of RONR!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted October 24, 2011 at 04:14 PM Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 at 04:14 PM No. We're still at work on the CD contents (the "value-added" material, not the text of RONR!)You mean director commentary and behind-the-scenes footage? Bloopers, even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted October 24, 2011 at 11:31 PM Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 at 11:31 PM You mean director commentary and behind-the-scenes footage? Bloopers, even?Yeah, I want to see the deleted scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted October 24, 2011 at 11:37 PM Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 at 11:37 PM For "bloopers" all you have to do is wait ten years. They will all be listed under the heading "Changes in the Twelfth Edition" on an appropriate RONR web page and the preface of that edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted October 24, 2011 at 11:42 PM Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 at 11:42 PM Yeah, but I'm looking for the "Lo§t §ections", such as a Question of Personal Outrage Afflicting the Assembly, Point of Umbrage, and the Request for Retribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burke Balch Posted October 25, 2011 at 01:38 AM Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 at 01:38 AM I imagine there are more than a few who would like to be flies on the wall during some of our authorship team debates while we are preparing a new edition. However, we meet in executive session -- and you know what that means! (No fly leaves the meeting room alive . . . .) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Rempel Posted October 25, 2011 at 01:50 AM Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 at 01:50 AM (No fly leaves the meeting room alive . . . .)This I must remember for teaching executive session! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted October 25, 2011 at 01:59 AM Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 at 01:59 AM I imagine there are more than a few who would like to be flies on the wall during some of our authorship team debates while we are preparing a new edition. However, we meet in executive session -- and you know what that means! (No fly leaves the meeting room alive . . . .)This I must remember for teaching executive session!And I guess that explains what all those spiders were there for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burke Balch Posted October 25, 2011 at 02:25 AM Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 at 02:25 AM (No fly leaves the meeting room alive . . . .)Any Harry Potter fans who happen to have wandered into this forum will appreciate the importance of this. (Hint: 4th book.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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