Guest WATCHER Posted March 25, 2012 at 11:54 AM Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 at 11:54 AM A fire protective association has By-laws heavily leaning towardsboard control; andLittle recognition of the dues paying members is affordedin the event of needed adjustments to said by-laws except at a yearly meetingor specially called preadvertised setting.Recently one board member believes he has discovered a greater need forthe chiefs accountability with reference to credit card abuse; andthere is a likely hood of equipment having found it’s way into the chief’s possession.As A member I would like to freeze any pending association activity until such timethat an audit and accounting of all physical equipment be reconciled prior to anyfurther election processes/board activity which may in turn aid in a cover up of improprieties.The By-laws have one redeeming Article through which the membership may have recourse to momentarily regain the integrity of the association once the outcomeof said audit findings are reported and if any infractions or violation of state statueexists.Is there a way to somehow invoke action as the article reads…Roberts Rules of Order, newly revised, shall govern this organization in all matters of procedure which are not in conflict or covered by these By-Laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Cisar Posted March 25, 2012 at 12:02 PM Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 at 12:02 PM They are your bylaws so you will have to tell us. If you need help in understanding what your bylaws mean, find a parliamentarian in your area to help you. Contact either NAP or AIP or both to find one in your area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WATCHER Posted March 25, 2012 at 12:13 PM Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 at 12:13 PM Mr. Cisar...WOW! I had no idea a reply would follow this quickly!Also I like your "Not smart enough to be scared" handel if this is what it is called?Does "tell us" mean post the By-laws?Be Blessed for assistance,WATCHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted March 25, 2012 at 12:25 PM Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 at 12:25 PM WOW! I had no idea a reply would follow this quickly!That was pretty fast though I have seen 3-4 responses inside of 2 minutes of the original post.Does "tell us" mean post the By-laws?No, please don't do that because we aren't allowed to interpret bylaws here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted March 25, 2012 at 12:28 PM Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 at 12:28 PM Does "tell us" mean post the By-laws?No. We don't do bylaw interpretation here. What Mr. Cisar meant (tied in with that) is that it will be up to your group to determine what the meaning of your bylaws is, so you tell us, as opposed to we tell you. Some principles of interpretation can be found beginning on page 588 of RONR (11th Edition).I'd say you also may have some legal issues regarding the apparent/alleged misuse of funds. You might want to seek legal council. RONR won't help you with that, but might be able to help you with getting this person out of a position of authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted March 25, 2012 at 05:05 PM Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 at 05:05 PM It might be possible to move to postpone the election when it becomes pending via the subsidiary motions to fix the time to which to adjourn and postpone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted March 25, 2012 at 05:33 PM Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 at 05:33 PM No. We don't do bylaw interpretation here. What Mr. Cisar meant (tied in with that) is that it will be up to your group to determine what the meaning of your bylaws is, so you tell us, as opposed to we tell you. Some principles of interpretation can be found beginning on page 588 of RONR (11th Edition).I think he meant that if you contacted a local Parliamentarian, you might be able to find some assistance with interpreting the By-laws, which is more than what we can do here.It might be possible to move to postpone the election when it becomes pending via the subsidiary motions to fix the time to which to adjourn and postpone.Why not simply elect new Board members who will follow the wishes of the general membership? Seems the better option to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted March 25, 2012 at 06:20 PM Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 at 06:20 PM ...As A member I would like to freeze any pending association activity until such timethat an audit and accounting of all physical equipment be reconciled prior to anyfurther election processes/board activity which may in turn aid in a cover up of improprieties....Can you be more clear what exactly you are hoping to 'freeze'? If an election (as suggested by your thread title), Mr. Mervosh has responded to that. Are there other activities you are hoping to stop in their tracks?What kind of 'board activity' do you have in mind? Remember that members of the board can get together and talk/plan/connive/scheme to their hearts' content, even if they are somehow prevented from holding a formal meeting of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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