Guest Larry Posted May 28, 2012 at 02:52 AM Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 at 02:52 AM Can a president rule a motion out of order? And if a motion is ruled out of order is it recorded in the minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Posted May 28, 2012 at 03:18 AM Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 at 03:18 AM The motion said about how the meetings are conducted that every board member has the opportunity to freely speak and make motions.The president ruled the motion out of order because as he said Robert’s Rules covers this issue and board meeting are run according Robert’s Rules.Can a president do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted May 28, 2012 at 03:46 AM Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 at 03:46 AM The motion said about how the meetings are conducted that every board member has the opportunity to freely speak and make motions.The president ruled the motion out of order because as he said Robert’s Rules covers this issue and board meeting are run according Robert’s Rules.Can a president do that?He could rule it out of order if:1. It is dilatory. I you have adopted Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised it might be.2. That it would create a special rule and that there was no notice, and that a majority of the entire membership is not present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted May 28, 2012 at 12:48 PM Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 at 12:48 PM The motion said about how the meetings are conducted that every board member has the opportunity to freely speak and make motions.The president ruled the motion out of order because as he said Robert’s Rules covers this issue and board meeting are run according Robert’s Rules.Can a president do that?Why would a member feel it necessary to make a motion to allow board members to speak and make motions? Those are two of the most fundamental rights of membership. What's next, a motion to allow members to attend meetings and vote? What would happen if the motion (to allow board members to speak and make motions) was defeated? Then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted May 28, 2012 at 01:52 PM Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 at 01:52 PM The motion said about how the meetings are conducted that every board member has the opportunity to freely speak and make motions.The president ruled the motion out of order because as he said Robert’s Rules covers this issue and board meeting are run according Robert’s Rules.Can a president do that?It sounds likely that the motion was out of order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Posted May 28, 2012 at 05:39 PM Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 at 05:39 PM Ok, but what to do if a chair is unfair and is not giving everybody the same chance to speak ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted May 28, 2012 at 06:31 PM Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 at 06:31 PM Ok, but what to do if a chair is unfair and is not giving everybody the same chance to speak ???Normally, raise a point of order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted May 28, 2012 at 06:49 PM Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 at 06:49 PM Ok, but what to do if a chair is unfair and is not giving everybody the same chance to speak ???How so? You mean he allows some members to speak and not others? There are, after all, rules of debate which might prevent a person from being able to speak in debate. So, what is actually happening here? Perhaps you could be a little less vague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Posted May 28, 2012 at 07:43 PM Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 at 07:43 PM When it is time to make motions the president gives the floor not a member who first raised his hand but a member who did not have a chance to make a motion.So many times I was first but I did not get the chance to make a motion.What is the rule? Who should get the voice to make a motion, a member who first raises his hand or the one who did speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted May 28, 2012 at 07:50 PM Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 at 07:50 PM See Chapter XII for all the (somewhat intricate) details -- too much to type here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintCad Posted May 28, 2012 at 07:52 PM Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 at 07:52 PM Just a question. In small bodies I am a member of, there is an idea that everyone should gather around and talk which may or may not lead to a motion. This idea of motion -> debate -> vote is anathema to many people and their ignorance-based prejudices against parliamentary law who view the body's job as sitting around and talking about their feelings.Is it possible that this motion that was declared out of order was one that would allow discussion of a topic before a motion was made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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