Guest President Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:22 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:22 PM upon ending of a served suspension, must a member (formerly a board member at time of suspension), ask for reinstatement and be voted back in as a member? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:28 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:28 PM As far as RONR is concerned you are a member or you aren't. Since you all chose to create a hybrid of member and nonmember it will be now up to you all to figure out the details on how to transition the mutated member into a full member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:34 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:34 PM upon ending of a served suspension, must a member (formerly a board member at time of suspension), ask for reinstatement and be voted back in as a member?If, as you say, the suspension has ended, why wouldn't you think the member would simply return to his pre-suspension status?Why would you "reinstate" and "vote back in" a member who wasn't expelled?Note that these are questions for your organization, not RONR, to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:38 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:38 PM upon ending of a served suspension, must a member (formerly a board member at time of suspension), ask for reinstatement and be voted back in as a member?RONR does not have a requirement that members must be "voted back in," to remain members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest president Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:39 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:39 PM based on a code of conduct violation, per our by laws, the member was suspended for a period of two years.....the 2 years is now up, and he feels he should just be "allowed" to coach again. I have been instructed, as a new president that he needs to ask for reinstatement into the organiztion and be voted back in....i am just looking for confirmation of such, as our by laws seem too gray to say for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xYH9gy Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:42 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:42 PM wouldn't expelled and suspended have the same meaning in this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:47 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:47 PM based on a code of conduct violation, per our by laws, the member was suspended for a period of two years.....the 2 years is now up, and he feels he should just be "allowed" to coach again. I have been instructed, as a new president that he needs to ask for reinstatement into the organiztion and be voted back in....i am just looking for confirmation of such, as our by laws seem too gray to say for sureAs president you will have to make a ruling based on the language of the governing documents, which is subject to appeal. You should consider the meaning of the word "suspension" as opposed to "expulsion." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:48 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:48 PM wouldn't expelled and suspended have the same meaning in this case?No. If the organization wanted to expel him I assume they would have done so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:50 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:50 PM wouldn't expelled and suspended have the same meaning in this case?Unfortunately, "suspended" does not give detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:53 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:53 PM No. If the organization wanted to expel him I assume they would have done so.And if the bylaws said "expelled for two years"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:53 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 03:53 PM Here is sort of a related point involving "suspension ...In Good Standing:RONR/11 defines the term "member in good standing" on p. 6 in the footnote as referring to a member whose membership rights are not in suspension, either as a consequence of disciplinary proceedings (Chapter XX) or by operation of some specific provision in the bylaws of the organization.So if you use the phrase "in good standing" in the bylaws, be sure to define exactly what you mean: what causes a member not to be in good standing, what he has to do to get back into the good graces of the association, &c. Also, you should specify which membership rights, duties, privileges, &c. are lost or suspended (or retained) by a member as a consequence of his being in "bad standing" as distinct from his being in good standing or ceasing to be a member at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted June 28, 2012 at 04:49 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 04:49 PM In my humble opinion, if the member was suspended, once the suspension is over then the member is back to his pre-suspension status unless the By-laws specifically state otherwise. As such, I would recommend stating that the members is now a member again. As for the position of "coach" that would be up to the organization to decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted June 28, 2012 at 04:58 PM Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 at 04:58 PM And if he is a "coach" of some county or state organized team, there may well be legal concerns. Ask your lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted June 29, 2012 at 04:21 PM Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 at 04:21 PM And if the bylaws said "expelled for two years"? Then the bylaws would be gibberish. Surprise, surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintCad Posted June 29, 2012 at 08:55 PM Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 at 08:55 PM Did the original punishment specify "upon reinstatement" or "eligible for reinstatement"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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