tanya Posted November 15, 2012 at 01:16 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 at 01:16 PM Currently one of our officers (president) has resigned from there position in the middle of term. term is one year. Leaving the rest of the officers to move forward.Our terms are up soon and now the officer that resigned wants the position again? first, can they run again if they resigned last term? second, if no one else is nominated for this position, what do we do? third, if voting, and is not voted in my majority, then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted November 15, 2012 at 01:46 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 at 01:46 PM ']first, can they run again if they resigned last term? No rule in RONR would prohibit it.second, if no one else is nominated for this position, what do we do? If the term of office as defined in the bylaws is for a fixed term and/or until their successor is elected (or similar language) then the current President would stay in office until someone is elected. If the term of office is a fixed term without any qualifying language then the office will fall vacant as soon as the term expires (RONR p. 573 l. 33 to p. 575).Oops, didn't have my cup of coffee this morning. See the next two responses.third, if voting, and is not voted in my majority, then what? If a nominee isn't elected by a majority vote then you have an incomplete election and you all must keep on voting until someone does get a majority vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMargaret Posted November 15, 2012 at 03:25 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 at 03:25 PM If you don't believe that the members ought to vote for someone who has a history with the organization of not being able to complete their duties, then you should nominate someone else, and most importantly, vote for someone else.If you believe that resigning from an office should make someone not eligible to run for office in the future, then you should work on changing your bylaws to make this a rule. If you have an election and there is not a majority vote, then you keep on voting (and voting and voting) until there is a majority vote, unless your bylaws specify another method. Some bylaws will allow for a vote by plurality, and some will give a method of breaking a tie (coin flip or pistols at dawn). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted November 15, 2012 at 04:30 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 at 04:30 PM first, can they run again if they resigned last term? Unless the By-laws of the organization state otherwise, yes the person can run for President again.second, if no one else is nominated for this position, what do we do? Is a ballot vote required for election? If so, then hope someone receives enough write-in votes to be elected. Otherwise, the person is likely to be elected by acclamation - and if the members do not want to nominate someone else, they get who they get.third, if voting, and is not voted in my majority, then what? You keep having additional rounds of voting until a candidate receives a majority of votes cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted November 15, 2012 at 05:30 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 at 05:30 PM ... or pistols at dawn....Remind me not to get on any board you're involved with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMargaret Posted November 15, 2012 at 08:05 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 at 08:05 PM Remind me not to get on any board you're involved with. Oh, come on, you don't want boring meetings, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary c Tesser Posted November 15, 2012 at 09:38 PM Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 at 09:38 PM Any meeting sMargaret attends armed only with her wit will leave the likes of David and me ducking for cover frequently anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted November 16, 2012 at 02:20 PM Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 at 02:20 PM Is a ballot vote required for election? If so, then hope someone receives enough write-in votes to be elected. Otherwise, the person is likely to be elected by acclamation . . .You must be pioneering a new definition of "acclamation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted November 16, 2012 at 02:47 PM Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 at 02:47 PM You must be pioneering a new definition of "acclamation."By "Otherwise ...", I suspect Rev. Ed meant "if a ballot vote is not required ...", and not "if no one receives enough write-in votes to be elected." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary c Tesser Posted November 16, 2012 at 04:34 PM Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 at 04:34 PM Courtly Southern chivalry at its most wrathful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted November 16, 2012 at 06:09 PM Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 at 06:09 PM By "Otherwise ...", I suspect Rev. Ed meant "if a ballot vote is not required ...", and not "if no one receives enough write-in votes to be elected." Thanks for translating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted November 19, 2012 at 03:47 AM Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 at 03:47 AM first, can they run again if they resigned last term? second, if no one else is nominated for this position, what do we do? third, if voting, and is not voted in my majority, then what? First: Yes they can.Second: Move to re-open nominations, and nominate somebody else, or stage a write-in campaign.Third: If nobody else is running, then it's very likely this person will get a majority of the votes cast. In fact, one vote is all that's needed, unless people vote for other qualified candidates. In other words, the only way to vote against one candidate is to vote for a different one, so nominating someone else, or writing in the name of someone else is the only way to deny your bad-guy a majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted November 20, 2012 at 03:18 AM Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 at 03:18 AM Third: If nobody else is running, then it's very likely this person will get a majority of the votes cast. In fact, one vote is all that's needed, unless people vote for other qualified candidates. A vote for an ineligible candidate is treated as an illegal vote. So, it counts toward the total number of votes cast.p. 416, ll. 2-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted November 20, 2012 at 05:38 AM Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 at 05:38 AM By "Otherwise ...", I suspect Rev. Ed meant "if a ballot vote is not required ...", and not "if no one receives enough write-in votes to be elected." Yes - thanks for the clarification.Of course, if a ballot vote is required, and no one else receives a write-in vote, then the member would be unanimously elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Sanderson Posted November 27, 2012 at 09:00 PM Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 at 09:00 PM If your by-laws provide for a position of past president, does a president resigning mid-term automatically fill the position of past president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edgar Posted November 27, 2012 at 09:04 PM Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 at 09:04 PM If your by-laws provide for a position of past president, does a president resigning mid-term automatically fill the position of past presidentWell, the immediate past president is the person who was president just prior to the current president so why wouldn't the answer be "yes"?In any event, RONR doesn't deal with past presidents, only current ones. And, for future reference, this forum works best if you'll start a new topic for your new questions, even if you find a similar topic already exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Britton Posted November 28, 2012 at 05:54 AM Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 at 05:54 AM Well, the immediate past president is the person who was president just prior to the current president so why wouldn't the answer be "yes"?In any event, RONR doesn't deal with past presidents, only current ones. And, for future reference, this forum works best if you'll start a new topic for your new questions, even if you find a similar topic already exists.Like you said, RONR doesn't cover it, but RONR does state what another authority states could be persuasive. You might check how some other authorities deal with this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 1, 2012 at 09:55 PM Report Share Posted December 1, 2012 at 09:55 PM Like you said, RONR doesn't cover it, but RONR does state what another authority states could be persuasive. You might check how some other authorities deal with this question.I think such advice would be more appropriate in the forum of such other authorities (if any). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Britton Posted December 2, 2012 at 04:31 AM Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 at 04:31 AM I think such advice would be more appropriate in the forum of such other authorities (if any).See RONR, p. 16 (line 27) - p. 17 (line 3):"What another manual may have to say in conflict with the adopted parliamentary authority then has no bearing on the case. In matters on which an organization's adopted parliamentary is silent, provisions in other works on parliamentary law may be persuasive-that is, they may carry weight in the absence of overriding reasons for following a different course-but they are not binding on the body." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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