DanielEHayes Posted March 15, 2015 at 12:49 PM Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 at 12:49 PM So here are the rules on discipline for one of the organizations I am a member of.Remember, that this particular "committee" is called as such as dictated by state law. It operates more as a Board of Directors in function though. I will refer to this body by the term SCC. The part the question is about has to do with from RONR(11th ed.), p. 589, l.33-p.589,l.5. "If the bylaws authorize certain things specifically, other things of the same class are thereby prohibited."Now it clearly lays out the provision for removal of any member. Does this then mean that other penalties can't be metted out against an SCC member?The part that says that says "Disciplinary action against any Party members shall be provided in accordance with RONR except as provided herein." of course possibly throws some abiguity in there. Does that just lay out the procedure for investigation? Or does that allow for other forms of discipline such as suspension?ARTICLE 15: JUDICIAL MATTERS1.Disciplinary action against any Party members shall be provided in accordancewith Robert's Rules of Order except as provided herein.2.Officers and other State Central Committee members may be removed for causeby a two-thirds majority vote of all members of the State Central Committee.1.The charges against any offending officer must be fully stated in the call forany State Central Committee meeting at which any removal action isplanned.2.This call along with the charges must be issued 21 days preceding themeeting3.Officers and State Central Committee members may also be removed by aSpecial Convention of all Party members by a two-thirds majority vote ofconvention delegates voting to carry out the removal. Any vacated office shallthereupon be filled by an election held at that Convention. Such officers shallcomplete the term of the office vacated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transpower Posted March 15, 2015 at 01:08 PM Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 at 01:08 PM "except as provided herein"--but there appears to be nothing in your bylaws specifying penalties other than removal from the society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted March 15, 2015 at 01:33 PM Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 at 01:33 PM . . . there appears to be nothing in your bylaws specifying penalties other than removal from the society.Perhaps "removal" just refers to removal from office, not expulsion from the society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielEHayes Posted March 15, 2015 at 01:56 PM Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 at 01:56 PM Perhaps "removal" just refers to removal from office, not expulsion from the society. So Mr Guest, are saying that judicial matters regarding "general members" of the society could be disciplined as per RONR, but Officers and SCC members can ONLY be removed from office?There are general dues paying Party members. A Party member is defined as someone that is officially registered with the Secretary of State for the Party's affiliation AND that has satisfied their dues requirement. SO really we have a bunch of layers. We have people registered with the Sec of State, that the Party can't do squat about. Then there are those that also pay dues that are eligible to participate as delegates at convention, then there are people that were elected at convention OR elected as a representative of a parish at a local caucus.So what can be potentially affected would be the Party members(dues payers) and the SCC members(part of the governing board of directors.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted March 15, 2015 at 02:59 PM Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 at 02:59 PM So Mr Guest, are you saying that judicial matters regarding "general members" of the society could be disciplined as per RONR, but Officers and SCC members can ONLY be removed from office? I'm saying that might be a reasonable interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted March 15, 2015 at 06:35 PM Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 at 06:35 PM "except as provided herein"--but there appears to be nothing in your bylaws specifying penalties other than removal from the society. I disagree. Perhaps "removal" just refers to removal from office, not expulsion from the society.I agree with Mr. Guest's interpretation. I think it is clear that the quoted provisions about removal refer to removing officers and members of the SCC from office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted March 15, 2015 at 11:32 PM Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 at 11:32 PM So Mr Guest, are saying that judicial matters regarding "general members" of the society could be disciplined as per RONR, but Officers and SCC members can ONLY be removed from office?I'd say that sounds right, and this is consistent with RONR. While the disciplinary procedures in Ch. XX provide for suspending or expelling members from the society, there isn't really any method to "suspend" an officer or board member from office. They can only be removed from office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 16, 2015 at 12:50 PM Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 at 12:50 PM I might interpret that language to say that the bylaws provisions must be followed for the specific cases to which they apply, but for all other situations, the rules in RONR apply. If, that is, I were in the habit of interpreting bylaws. So I'll just call it one potentially reasonable interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transpower Posted March 21, 2015 at 08:59 PM Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 at 08:59 PM In rereading the bylaws, I see that "removal" means removal from office, not removal from the society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tom Mckenna Posted March 22, 2015 at 01:35 AM Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 at 01:35 AM We have a Sportsman's Assoc. with a five member judicial board. They are interpreting our by laws any way they wish and are causing much trouble. How can the ' body ' remove them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted March 22, 2015 at 01:43 AM Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 at 01:43 AM Guest Tom McKenna, please post your question as a new topic instead of adding to an existing thread. Think of this thread as the original poster’s thread. This way, the answers to your question will not be confused with the answers to the question the original poster had, especially if they're completely different situations or if the original poster comes back with follow up questions. You can post a new question by going to the General Discussion forum and clicking on "Start New Topic" near the upper right hand corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted March 22, 2015 at 01:45 AM Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 at 01:45 AM In rereading the bylaws, I see that "removal" means removal from office, not removal from the society.I'm glad to see that your reconsidered. I agree with your new interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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