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Motion to dispense with the reading of the minutes
Edgar Guest replied to a topic in General Discussion
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Motion to dispense with the reading of the minutes
Edgar Guest replied to a topic in General Discussion
No, it's not. Especially not after five years. -
The Authorship Team
Edgar Guest replied to Dan Honemann's topic in Questions or Comments about the Message Board
One of the benefits of being a member is the ability to edit (i.e. amend) and even delete (i.e. rescind) your posts. Though one should never delete posts that have been replied to. And any editing done after replies have been posted should be done sparingly and transparently (e.g. by using Strike Through and adding a note indicating that the post has been edited). Edited at 9:15 AM. -
"could and could"? And why do you think this person was male?
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By amending the motion to strike "censure" and insert "commend".
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Vacancy when trying to achieve a quorum
Edgar Guest replied to DavidWC's topic in General Discussion
As it happens, I used to be involved with a local historical society whose provisional charter, granted in 1991, was made "absolute" in 2000. Unless you're an attorney or a tax accountant (I'm neither), I would caution against interpreting the applicable laws based on a cursory reading of a few web pages. You might want to contact historical societies near you. There's no need to reinvent the wheel. -
What transforms the exchange of e-mail among individual board members into an "e-mail meeting"? (Note: this is a rhetorical question, outside the scope of this forum.)
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The quorum refers to the number of members who must be present at a meeting in order for any substantive business to be conducted. The exchange of e-mail messages among board members does not constitute a meeting of the board (so the word "quorum" doesn't apply) and nothing in RONR gives anyone the right to view those messages.
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Vacancy when trying to achieve a quorum
Edgar Guest replied to DavidWC's topic in General Discussion
No. Do not confuse the quorum requirement with a voting requirement. A vote of 1-0 constitutes a majority vote no matter how many members are present (or absent). -
Vacancy when trying to achieve a quorum
Edgar Guest replied to DavidWC's topic in General Discussion
What if a majority of a full board is present but, due to vacancies, the quorum requirement can't be met (e.g. the quorum requirement is two-thirds of the board)? Is the General's objection to the lack of a majority or the lack of a quorum (in cases where the two are different)? -
Vacancy when trying to achieve a quorum
Edgar Guest replied to DavidWC's topic in General Discussion
I think the term "majority of the board" can be reasonably interpreted to mean "majority of the board members". -
And, not surprisingly, the motion that creates a committee is called a Motion to Commit.
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The short answer is "yes". The slightly longer answer is that there's no need to make a motion to approve the minutes (mainly because not approving them is not an option). But a member who wasn't present at the meeting in question is perfectly free to suggest a correction prior to approval. Our favorite example is when the minutes record that the absent member made a motion.
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That's okay. Our Moderator will likely be grateful.
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It's also possible (though perhaps unlikely) that the board might not be the proper body to accept (or reject) the resignation of a board member.
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The Authorship Team
Edgar Guest replied to Dan Honemann's topic in Questions or Comments about the Message Board
And even though Mr. Honemann has retired resigned from The Authorship Team, I've already suggested (alas, to no avail) that he retain his position as a member of The Moderating Team. If for no other reason than he has contributed more than 4,000 posts as a Moderator and those posts no longer indicate that. -
For future reference, this forum works best if you post your new question as a new topic, even if you find an existing (month-old) topic that's similar. In other words, think of this as Ms. Prescott's topic.
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Keeping It Neat
Edgar Guest replied to Shmuel Gerber's topic in Questions or Comments about the Message Board
It's possible. That's what you're paying for. There are perfectly good free, open-source, alternatives. -
Keeping It Neat
Edgar Guest replied to Shmuel Gerber's topic in Questions or Comments about the Message Board
Unless and until that message is amended, I think most (including me) will be deterred. Which seems to be the point of the message. Surely you're not suggesting that we ignore the rules. -
There is no need to notify anyone. The member simply chooses not to vote. Unless the vote is by ballot, the other members will probably notice.
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If all you want to do is "throw out ideas", go across the street and throw them out at the tavern. Don't waste members' time waiting for "consensus". Some of them may have better things to do.
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If there's time for the nominating committee to reconvene and select another candidate, it should do so. If not, it's no big deal. In any event, nominations from the floor should always be accepted. You might also want to avoid the use of the word "slate". There is no slate.
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So someone made a motion to talk about "x" and most members didn't want to talk about "x" so the motion (to do nothing but talk) was defeated? Small boards (such as, presumably, your council) are free to discuss things without a formal motion having first been made. In larger bodies it's motion first, then debate, then voting. Further, in case this might be an issue, the fact that the agenda listed something for discussion would not prevent the council from adopting a motion to actually do something rather than just talk about doing something (or talk about doing nothing).
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The mere fact that something is on an agenda doesn't necessarily mean a motion will be made. In other words, when the meeting gets to that item, a member will (eventually) have to make a motion or no decision will have been made. Motions (to do something) are how deliberative bodies make decisions (to do something). If for example, the agenda item was the dilapidated condition of the clubhouse, a member could, for example, make a motion directing the president to hire a painter to paint the clubhouse red at a cost not to exceed $250.. During debate the motion might be amended (e.g. change "red" to "green"). Or the motion might be sent to a committee for further research. Or maybe no one makes a motion at all and the meeting moves on to the next item on the agenda.
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I'd rather say that most rules can't be suspended.