Cuibono Posted February 12, 2019 at 02:47 AM Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 02:47 AM (edited) In our governing documents, there is a deadline that the Board must submit all approved resolution proposals to our general membership within 30 days of our convention. The Board has asked me if this could be "waived" to allow for more time. I advised that it could not but could this be considered a "rule of order" and then we can get around this 30 day provision? The way it is set up the committee only had about 4 days to review these resolutions. Edited February 12, 2019 at 02:48 AM by Cuibono clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted February 12, 2019 at 03:06 AM Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 03:06 AM (edited) This appears to be a notice provision designed to protect absentees and to give members notice of certain items of business to come before the convention. I do not think it can be waived or suspended except by a vote of ALL members. Not just all members in attendance, but ALL members of the society. Edited to add: You said, " there is a deadline that the Board must submit all approved resolution proposals to our general membership within 30 days of our convention." Did you intend to say that resolution proposals must be submitted to the membership at least 30 days PRIOR TO the convention? I am assuming that is what you meant to say. Edited February 12, 2019 at 03:11 AM by Richard Brown Added last paragraph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuibono Posted February 12, 2019 at 03:31 AM Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 03:31 AM Thanks! And yes that is what I meant to say - 30 days prior to the convention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuibono Posted February 12, 2019 at 03:35 AM Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 03:35 AM oh I just thought of something - could the resolutions in which the board is seeking more time to consider be brought up as a motion to amend something previously adopted/ motion to amend the bylaws at the convention itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted February 12, 2019 at 03:24 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 03:24 PM 11 hours ago, Cuibono said: oh I just thought of something - could the resolutions in which the board is seeking more time to consider be brought up as a motion to amend something previously adopted/ motion to amend the bylaws at the convention itself? No, because that would be less than 30 days of notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted February 12, 2019 at 04:04 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 04:04 PM (edited) 12 hours ago, Cuibono said: oh I just thought of something - could the resolutions in which the board is seeking more time to consider be brought up as a motion to amend something previously adopted/ motion to amend the bylaws at the convention itself? Although motions to amend the bylaws are similar in nature to a motion to Amend Something Previously Adopted, they usually have their own prior notice and threshold requirements Also, previous notice requirements are not rules of order, since they apply to actions outside the context of a meeting, and cannot be suspended. Edited February 12, 2019 at 04:07 PM by Gary Novosielski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted February 12, 2019 at 04:12 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 04:12 PM 6 minutes ago, Gary Novosielski said: Also, previous notice requirements are not rules of order, since they apply to actions outside the context of a meeting, and cannot be suspended. I think they are rules of order, just not suspendable ones since they protect absentees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted February 12, 2019 at 05:08 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 05:08 PM 55 minutes ago, George Mervosh said: I think they are rules of order, just not suspendable ones since they protect absentees. That is my understanding, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuibono Posted February 12, 2019 at 11:19 PM Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 11:19 PM Thank you. I think I'm a little uunclear as to what then can be brought up in a motion at plenary. What is the real difference between motions and resolutions besides complication and notice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted February 12, 2019 at 11:47 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 11:47 PM 27 minutes ago, Cuibono said: Thank you. I think I'm a little uunclear as to what then can be brought up in a motion at plenary. What is the real difference between motions and resolutions besides complication and notice? None. A resolution is just a motion written in a particular format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted February 12, 2019 at 11:51 PM Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 at 11:51 PM (edited) 32 minutes ago, Cuibono said: I think I'm a little uunclear as to what then can be brought up in a motion at plenary. I have no idea what you mean by bringing up motion "at plenary". 32 minutes ago, Cuibono said: What is the real difference between motions and resolutions besides complication and notice? There really is no difference other than the fact that a resolution is often considered to be a more formal type of motion, sometimes with a bunch of whereas clauses before the enacting (or resolved) clause. Edited February 12, 2019 at 11:52 PM by Richard Brown Edited last sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Zook Posted February 15, 2019 at 06:18 AM Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 at 06:18 AM I believe that I've seen "plenary" used to refer to meetings of the denomination-wide conventions of some Presbyterian denominations. Comparable to the Republican or Democratic national conventions in that there are multiple layers of conventions sending delegates to higher conventions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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