Guest Ian Posted October 25, 2019 at 06:04 AM Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 at 06:04 AM If there is a motion to suspend the rules, after the discussion/vote has taken place should there be another motion to revert to regular proceedings? if there is, and that was not done, is any business after the suspension valid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hieu H. Huynh Posted October 25, 2019 at 07:50 AM Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 at 07:50 AM Why suspend the rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted October 25, 2019 at 10:36 AM Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 at 10:36 AM The usual (p. 262) way "suspend" is used is: "I move to suspend the rule(s) and ...". When the action contained in the ellipsis is completed (or disposed of) the rule in question, normally not specified, is reinstated automatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted October 25, 2019 at 01:07 PM Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 at 01:07 PM 6 hours ago, Guest Ian said: If there is a motion to suspend the rules, after the discussion/vote has taken place should there be another motion to revert to regular proceedings? No, at least not normally, as Dr. Stackpole said in his answer. Perhaps more information will be helpful. Exactly why were the rules suspended? What particular rule(s) was suspended? 7 hours ago, Guest Ian said: if there is, and that was not done, is any business after the suspension valid? Most likely, yes. I’m trying hard to think of a situation where it would not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted October 25, 2019 at 01:28 PM Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 at 01:28 PM (edited) 7 hours ago, Guest Ian said: If there is a motion to suspend the rules, after the discussion/vote has taken place should there be another motion to revert to regular proceedings? This is generally unnecessary. The motion to Suspend the Rules is used to suspend the rules for a specific purpose, and when that purpose is completed, the suspending effect ends. In some cases, the rules are suspended for a specific purpose and also for a specific length of time (say, for the consideration of a particular motion, or the duration of a meeting), and in those cases the motion to suspend the rules specifies when the suspending effect ends. I suppose it is conceivable that in a particular case a motion to suspend the rules may be ambiguous in this regard, or the assembly might choose to end the suspending effect early, in which case a motion could be made to revert to the regular rules, but I think this would be the exception rather than the rule. It should be noted that a generic motion “to suspend the rules” is not in order. Improperly wording motions to suspend the rules in that manner is generally what leads to this sort of confusion. 7 hours ago, Guest Ian said: f there is, and that was not done, is any business after the suspension valid? As noted above, no motion to “reinstate” the rules is necessary. Edited October 25, 2019 at 01:28 PM by Josh Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted October 25, 2019 at 05:19 PM Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 at 05:19 PM If a main motion is adopted that has the effect of suspending the rules, the way to "revert" is to reject the main motion upon reconsideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted October 25, 2019 at 11:00 PM Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 at 11:00 PM 5 hours ago, Rob Elsman said: If a main motion is adopted that has the effect of suspending the rules Can you give an example of such a main motion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted October 26, 2019 at 12:31 AM Report Share Posted October 26, 2019 at 12:31 AM Sure. At the beginning of a meeting, a member moves "that the length of speeches in debate shall not exceed fifteen minutes for the duration of the meeting". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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