Guest Mdsckelly Posted April 30, 2021 at 09:23 PM Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 at 09:23 PM Can you adjourn the open meeting to then proceed to executive session? In other words, does the open meeting need to be open to go into executive session? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hieu H. Huynh Posted April 30, 2021 at 10:33 PM Report Share Posted April 30, 2021 at 10:33 PM The meeting could simply go into executive session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Open meeting to executive Posted May 1, 2021 at 02:35 PM Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 at 02:35 PM My question is, is there an issue to adjourn the open meeting, and then move to executive session. I don't plan to return to open session, so I want to adjourn open session before proceeding to executive session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted May 1, 2021 at 02:54 PM Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 at 02:54 PM 14 minutes ago, Guest Open meeting to executive said: My question is, is there an issue to adjourn the open meeting, and then move to executive session. I don't plan to return to open session, so I want to adjourn open session before proceeding to executive session. Doing what you say you want to do would be a big mistake. Once a meting is adjourned, its over. Pay attention to H.H.H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted May 1, 2021 at 04:22 PM Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 at 04:22 PM 1 hour ago, Guest Open meeting to executive said: My question is, is there an issue to adjourn the open meeting, and then move to executive session. I don't plan to return to open session, so I want to adjourn open session before proceeding to executive session. As Mr. Honemann said, once the meeting adjourns, it is adjourned.... it is over. Unless the executive session has been called as a separate meeeting, there will be no authority to start a new meeting in executive session once the meeting is adjourned. You should call the meeting to order in open session, take care of whatever business is to be done in open session, then, without adjourning, go into executive session by a majority vote or, as is common, by unanimous consent. When the business to be taken care of in executive session is concluded, simply adjourn the meeting. There is no need to come out of executive session and go back to open session before adjourning, but you may do so if you prefer. There is no point in it if there is no more business to conduct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted May 1, 2021 at 04:31 PM Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 at 04:31 PM 1 hour ago, Guest Open meeting to executive said: My question is, is there an issue to adjourn the open meeting, and then move to executive session. I don't plan to return to open session, so I want to adjourn open session before proceeding to executive session. The "open meeting" and the "executive session" aren't two separate meetings, they are two parts of the same meeting. You don't "adjourn open session." The motion to adjourn ends the meeting in its entirety, and therefore should not be adopted until all portions of the meeting are over. The proper motion is to adopt a motion to go into executive session. Whether or not the assembly intends to later return to open session does not change this process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted May 1, 2021 at 05:02 PM Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 at 05:02 PM Agreeing with the above, perhaps we can suggest ways to achieve your goal if you can tell us why you wish to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Puzzling Posted May 1, 2021 at 06:49 PM Report Share Posted May 1, 2021 at 06:49 PM Not sure what is the problem. My guess is that Guest Mdsckelly wants to set the date of the next meeting (so that the public in advance knows when the next public meeting is and confuses the "motion to adjourn' with the " motion to fix the time to which to adjourn" ( while not adjourn after this but going into executive session). If this was your question (and I am only guessing) this is all okay and can be done see section 22 of RONR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted May 2, 2021 at 07:13 PM Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 at 07:13 PM On 5/1/2021 at 10:35 AM, Guest Open meeting to executive said: My question is, is there an issue to adjourn the open meeting, and then move to executive session. I don't plan to return to open session, so I want to adjourn open session before proceeding to executive session. Once you "adjourn" you can't move anything, and everyone goes home. If you want to go into executive session, just move to go into executive session. At the end, you can move to come out, and then adjourn, or simply adjourn. I recommend the former, so that the time of adjournment will appear in the minutes of the general meeting, and not those of the executive session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted May 2, 2021 at 07:58 PM Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 at 07:58 PM 44 minutes ago, Gary Novosielski said: At the end, you can move to come out, and then adjourn, or simply adjourn. I recommend the former, so that the time of adjournment will appear in the minutes of the general meeting, and not those of the executive session. Good advice. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted May 2, 2021 at 09:18 PM Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 at 09:18 PM 2 hours ago, Gary Novosielski said: At the end, you can move to come out, and then adjourn, or simply adjourn. I recommend the former, so that the time of adjournment will appear in the minutes of the general meeting, and not those of the executive session. 1 hour ago, Richard Brown said: Good advice. I agree. If a meeting which began in open session adjourns while in executive session, let's say it's 3:00 PM, I see no reason why the minutes of the open session could not reflect that it was adjourned at 3:00 PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted May 2, 2021 at 09:24 PM Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 at 09:24 PM 4 minutes ago, Daniel H. Honemann said: If a meeting which began in open session adjourns while in executive session, let's say it's 3:00 PM, I see no reason why the minutes of the open session could not reflect that it was adjourned at 3:00 PM. As a matter of fact, I think that that is exactly what they should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted May 2, 2021 at 10:06 PM Report Share Posted May 2, 2021 at 10:06 PM 39 minutes ago, Daniel H. Honemann said: If a meeting which began in open session adjourns while in executive session, let's say it's 3:00 PM, I see no reason why the minutes of the open session could not reflect that it was adjourned at 3:00 PM. 38 minutes ago, Daniel H. Honemann said: As a matter of fact, I think that that is exactly what they should do As I think more about it, I agree. I see no reason why the regular minutes of the meeting cannot state the time of adjournment. Regardless of whether the adjournment was done in open session or executive session, the time of adjournment should be included in the minutes of the meeting. RONR (12th ed.) 48:4 (12). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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