Guest Howard Posted February 11, 2011 at 05:35 PM Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 at 05:35 PM Roberts Rules? If a committee or board calls for a vote and calls "All in Favor?", but neglects to call "All opposed?", does that invalidate the vote if the motion is passed without an opportunity for No votes? My interpretation of the Rules says that it would invalidate the vote. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted February 11, 2011 at 05:38 PM Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 at 05:38 PM Roberts Rules? If a committee or board calls for a vote and calls "All in Favor?", but neglects to call "All opposed?", does that invalidate the vote if the motion is passed without an opportunity for No votes? My interpretation of the Rules says that it would invalidate the vote. Any ideas?It would not invalidate the vote because a Point of Order needed to be timely. See RONR pp. 243-244. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howard Posted February 11, 2011 at 05:44 PM Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 at 05:44 PM To clarify, a membr of the public at a meeting notes the irregularity of not calling for all opposed votes. A member of the public, not a member of the committee cannot call point of order, can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted February 11, 2011 at 05:48 PM Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 at 05:48 PM To clarify, a membr of the public at a meeting notes the irregularity of not calling for all opposed votes. A member of the public, not a member of the committee cannot call point of order, can they?No, but they're correct nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted February 11, 2011 at 06:34 PM Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 at 06:34 PM Any ideas?See this recent topic for a discussion of instances when the negative vote doesn't have to be called for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted February 11, 2011 at 06:36 PM Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 at 06:36 PM See this recent topic for a discussion of instances when the negative vote doesn't have to be called for.I'd avoid it.......no thread that's 27 posts long is useful, Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted February 11, 2011 at 06:44 PM Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 at 06:44 PM I'd avoid it.......no thread that's 27 posts long is useful, Howard.Since Mr. Mervosh contributed post #24, perhaps Howard will be safe reading up to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted February 11, 2011 at 06:47 PM Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 at 06:47 PM Since Mr. Mervosh contributed post #24, perhaps Howard will be safe reading up to that point.Ha ha, for sure, but then I again I don't have 11% of the total posts on the board.......if he's smart he'll stop at #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Elsman Posted February 11, 2011 at 06:51 PM Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 at 06:51 PM Roberts Rules? If a committee or board calls for a vote and calls "All in Favor?", but neglects to call "All opposed?", does that invalidate the vote if the motion is passed without an opportunity for No votes? My interpretation of the Rules says that it would invalidate the vote. Any ideas?If no member of the body demands the other side of the question be put, then the vote is valid, and the result stands. RONR (10th ed.), p. 43, ll. 15-20. But, see further on about instances where it is irrelevant to put the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted February 11, 2011 at 09:29 PM Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 at 09:29 PM Roberts Rules? If a committee or board calls for a vote and calls "All in Favor?", but neglects to call "All opposed?", does that invalidate the vote if the motion is passed without an opportunity for No votes? My interpretation of the Rules says that it would invalidate the vote. Any ideas?No it would not. If nobody raised a point of order at the time, the vote stands. But if you have a chair who routinely fails to call for the negative vote, this should be dealt with. It is one of the warning signs of a poor presiding officer. Still, rules don't enforce themselves. You have to be prepared to raise a point of order when it will still do some good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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