Guest Dorothy Posted January 23, 2017 at 04:13 PM Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 at 04:13 PM Our church leadership told us that our annual meeting has been postponed indefinitely. The bylaws require the time for the meeting. What do we say in response? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted January 23, 2017 at 04:47 PM Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 at 04:47 PM (edited) No rule in RONR permits them to do this, and unless your bylaws do you can simply ingore the announcement. Everyone should meet at the appointed date and time and if the president and vice president aren't there, the Secretary or another member should call the meeting to order, If the assembly wishes to set the time for an adjourned meeting (a meeting at a future time before the next regular meeting) they can, by majority vote. If not, they can elect pro-tem officers and conduct the required business assuming a quorum is present. Edited January 23, 2017 at 04:53 PM by George Mervosh added the last 5 words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dottieditto Posted January 23, 2017 at 09:44 PM Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 at 09:44 PM 5 hours ago, Guest Dorothy said: Our church leadership told us that our annual meeting has been postponed indefinitely. The bylaws require the time for the meeting. What do we say in response? Thank you for your response. When I mention bylaws, the same leadership is starting to assert their version is the correct ones (even though they have yet to produce them). I am concerned that the recordkeeping is not as good as it should be. Any suggestions in this sort of issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hieu H. Huynh Posted January 23, 2017 at 09:49 PM Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 at 09:49 PM What about the secretary keeping the records? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dottieditto Posted January 23, 2017 at 09:56 PM Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 at 09:56 PM Her records show bylaws amended as of a certain date. The minutes are available but are not signed by the secretary. The thumb drive she provided us shows the date the files were created but that is all. By the way, the secretary resigned in December. If we cannot come to a consensus, would the church membership need to vote on the bylaws again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Katz Posted January 24, 2017 at 12:15 AM Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 at 12:15 AM Oh boy, I've been down this road before. It's not pretty. I'd suggest you start with the minutes, and see if there is agreement that they are correct. The bylaws can be reconstructed from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Who's Coming to Dinner Posted January 24, 2017 at 04:44 AM Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 at 04:44 AM You should still meet as scheduled. And keep an eye on the treasury. I hate to say it, but this sort of stonewalling by the "leadership" presages a larceny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dottieditto Posted January 27, 2017 at 05:23 AM Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 at 05:23 AM Do you have where in the rules it says that any member can call the meeting to order if no officer is present? I would guess if we can support our having the meeting and actually start the meeting, we would have gone past one large obstacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted January 27, 2017 at 06:08 AM Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 at 06:08 AM Page 453, lines 3 - 9. "If neither the president nor any vice president is present, the secretary -- or in the Secretary's absence some other member -- should call the meeting to order, and the assembly should immediately elect a chairman pro tem to preside during that session. Such office is terminated by the entrance of the president or a vice president. . . . " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dottieditto Posted January 27, 2017 at 06:09 AM Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 at 06:09 AM Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dottieditto Posted January 27, 2017 at 03:31 PM Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 at 03:31 PM 9 hours ago, Richard Brown said: Page 453, lines 3 - 9. "If neither the president nor any vice president is present, the secretary -- or in the Secretary's absence some other member -- should call the meeting to order, and the assembly should immediately elect a chairman pro tem to preside during that session. Such office is terminated by the entrance of the president or a vice president. . . . " Would you please give me the section number since I will look it up online. Thank you again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted January 27, 2017 at 03:38 PM Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 at 03:38 PM 6 minutes ago, dottieditto said: Would you please give me the section number since I will look it up online. Thank you again The cited text is not online. What is online is 102 years old, though much of it is timeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dottieditto Posted January 29, 2017 at 11:14 PM Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 at 11:14 PM Just an update. We did the meeting and it was not received well. But we tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted January 30, 2017 at 12:32 AM Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 at 12:32 AM 1 hour ago, dottieditto said: Just an update. We did themeeting and it was not received well. But we tried. What exactly was not received well? And why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dottieditto Posted January 30, 2017 at 02:44 AM Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 at 02:44 AM We were able to support our reasoning and got part of the meeting accomplished. Even did the fix the time of next meeting motion. But it was a shell of a meeting, nothing truly accomplished but showing we could and would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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