Jump to content
The Official RONR Q & A Forums

Main motion permitted during discussion


Guest Lisa Shepherd

Recommended Posts

A "discussion item" is properly introduced by making a motion to undertake some action, express an opinion, &c, otherwise you don't know what you are discussing, and the conversations can quickly go off the rails. (Page 34, lines 7-9 and line 32ff)

So it looks as though your agenda-writer has things backwards.  Motion first, discussion afterward, as Alice would have it

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, MadamMember said:

Understood. Still asking the question. Can a person rise to make a motion during a discussion? 

The only time discussion should be happening is if a motion was already made, so main motions would be out of order at that point. However, if your organization has gone off the reservation and is having discussion without a motion, then sure, I guess.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This may be a small board where discussion often times occurs without a motion or precedes a motion, but even if it is a regular assembly that has gone off the rails, as Mr. Katz suggests, if the motion does not require previous notice, how can the answer be, no?

Edited by George Mervosh
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, Guest Lisa Shepherd said:

If an agenda has a few items listed as "discussion items," may a member rise to make a motion during the discussion of a subject? For instance, if the agenda says "discussion of Office lease," may a member rise to move a motion regarding the lease? 

Yes.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Far, FAR, better to insist that the members first propose an actual motion to be the subject of the "discussion" and the eventual disposition of the motion.  If the member really doesn't know for sure just what he has in mind (it happens!) ask him to move something related to his thoughts.  You can always defeat the motion if things don't work out rationally.

That way there will be no ambiguity as to whether "discussion" is limited to discussion only.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 Well, so far as I can tell, once you've gotten there, there's not many other options. But the point is that the members have no need to ask to have a discussion about, say, painting the clubhouse, and what color it should be painted. Instead, a member can move to paint it blue. If someone wants it painted, but not blue, he can move to amend. In this way, the body is faced at each point with discussion on a narrow, binary question, which focuses debate and avoids circular discussions and the situation where people seek recognition but do not respond in a meaningful way to previous comments. 

If the organization is not prepared to make a decision, it can refer or postpone.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 1/22/2019 at 8:10 AM, MadamMember said:

Understood. Still asking the question. Can a person rise to make a motion during a discussion? 

Also understood, but if the rules in RONR apply there would be no discussion without a motion, so this situation would not be covered.  All I can say is that there is no rule in RONR that would prohibit seeking recognition for the purpose of making a motion.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, MadamMember said:

When can a member rise to make a motion about something that is not on the agenda?

Here is the rule from page 33 of RONR:  "MAKING A MOTION. To make a main motion, a member must obtain the floor, as explained above, when no other question is pending and when business of the kind represented by the motion is in order."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...