Guest Sarah Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:31 AM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:31 AM We have two members with the same last name. How do we differentiate when we refer to/mention them?Thanks!-Sarah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:37 AM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:37 AM Assuming (dangerous as that is) you are referring to inclusion of their names in the minutes where appropriate, using first names as well as last names would probably be acceptable. For example: "Mr. John Smith moved ......" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:39 AM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:39 AM We have two members with the same last name. How do we differentiate when we refer to/mention them?Thanks!-SarahTwo ideas come to mind off hand. First, is to address the member by first and last name. The other idea is if you know where the member lives you could refer to them by last name and location such as "The Chair recognizes Mr. Green from Alexandria." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sarah Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:40 AM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:40 AM Assuming (dangerous as that is) you are referring to inclusion of their names in the minutes where appropriate, using first names as well as last names would probably be acceptable. For example: "Mr. John Smith moved ......"Yes, that is one situation that I am referring to, but I am also wondering how to address them during meetings. ie. How should the president address them if they both request to speak at the same time?-Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sarah Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:44 AM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:44 AM Thank you. They are both from the same place, but if it is appropriate to refer to them by first and last name we will do so.Two ideas come to mind off hand. First, is to address the member by first and last name. The other idea is if you know where the member lives you could refer to them by last name and location such as "The Chair recognizes Mr. Green from Alexandria." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:44 AM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:44 AM Yes, that is one situation that I am referring to, but I am also wondering how to address them during meetings. ie. How should the president address them if they both request to speak at the same time?-Thanks!I believe Chris H offers an acceptable alternative. I don't think you need to get too hung up on this. The important point is to properly recognize the correct member at the correct time. Whatever that takes should be fine, and I wouldn't expect any problems from the other members aware of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sarah Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:47 AM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:47 AM I believe Chris H offers an acceptable alternative. I don't think you need to get too hung up on this. The important point is to properly recognize the correct member at the correct time. Whatever that takes should be fine, and I wouldn't expect any problems from the other members aware of the situation.Thanks everyone! It's for a competition so we wanted to be extra cautious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weldon Merritt Posted January 7, 2011 at 02:20 AM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 02:20 AM Thanks everyone! It's for a competition so we wanted to be extra cautious.Good idea! In contests I have judged, I have graded down because the chair refers to members by the first name alone. But I certainly would not grade down for referring to a member by first and last name if necessary to distinguish between them. (And I doubt any other judge would, either.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted January 7, 2011 at 04:28 AM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 04:28 AM Good idea! In contests I have judged, I have graded down because the chair refers to members by the first name alone. But I certainly would not grade down for referring to a member by first and last name if necessary to distinguish between them. (And I doubt any other judge would, either.)I'd agree, and I have judged contests as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David A Foulkes Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:09 PM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 01:09 PM Good idea! In contests I have judged, I have graded down because the chair refers to members by the first name alone. But I certainly would not grade down for referring to a member by first and last name if necessary to distinguish between them. (And I doubt any other judge would, either.)I'd agree, and I have judged contests as well.I'm curious what sort of contests these are where the rules of RONR apply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted January 7, 2011 at 02:16 PM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 02:16 PM I'm curious what sort of contests these are where the rules of RONR apply?Youth groups have parliamentary procedure contests and request judges all the time.........FFA and FBLA come to mind right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted January 7, 2011 at 02:31 PM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 02:31 PM FFA and FBLA come to mind right away.See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parli_Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted January 7, 2011 at 02:33 PM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 02:33 PM See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parli_ProThat's only one group......many have these contests and they are judged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted January 7, 2011 at 02:52 PM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 02:52 PM That's only one group......many have these contests and they are judged.Sometimes wrongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted January 7, 2011 at 02:58 PM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 02:58 PM Sometimes wrongly. I wondered why the invitations suddenly stopped! But no matter, Sarah got the right advice here from Mr. Foulkes and Chris combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted January 7, 2011 at 03:48 PM Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 at 03:48 PM I wondered why the invitations suddenly stopped! Present company is always excepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sarah Posted January 11, 2011 at 04:16 AM Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 at 04:16 AM Our competition is Parli Pro through FCCLA. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Wynn Posted January 11, 2011 at 04:22 AM Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 at 04:22 AM Youth groups have parliamentary procedure contests and request judges all the time............ in exchange for a free lunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthib Posted January 11, 2011 at 10:04 PM Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 at 10:04 PM I wondered why the invitations suddenly stopped! But no matter, Sarah got the right advice here from Mr. Foulkes and Chris combined.-10 for using first name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted January 11, 2011 at 11:17 PM Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 at 11:17 PM -10 for using first name.I agree.And another point is knocked off for not including the information that The Book has no answer to the original question posed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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