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Dan Honemann

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  1. Since rule number one is obviously not a rule of order, that's as far as I got. 🙂
  2. Looks like you're not supposed to make any, although I suspect that privileged motions (a motion to Recess, for example) would probably be entertained.
  3. No need to refer to me by my title.
  4. One reason would be that they have a rule which says that only questions can be asked (no motions made) under "Information and Enquiries".
  5. The most recent issue of the National Parliamentarian tells me that the next edition is expected to be released at the NAP's 2020 Training Conference.
  6. I think we ought not lose sight of the fact that there is a substantial difference between (i) expunging from the minutes a main motion which has been adopted, and (ii) agreeing not to include in the minutes a main motion which was not considered because an objection to its consideration was sustained, as was posited here. In the latter instance, I think a two-thirds vote will suffice.
  7. If RONR is the adopted parliamentary authority, the association's rules (assuming no special rule, bylaw, etc. to the contrary) require that main motions that have been made during the course of a meeting are to be included in the minutes of that meeting. As a consequence, it seems to me that it will require a suspension of the rules in order to approve minutes of a meeting which knowingly and deliberately fail to include a main motion which was, in fact, made during that meeting.
  8. The first thing you need to do is to make sure that your board has the power to accept these resignations (see RONR, 11th ed., pp. 467-68). Then take a look at what is said in Section 32 of RONR, especially on page 291, and come back if you have any further questions.
  9. I don't see anything materially wrong with what occurred. Members have a right to change their votes before the result is announced by the chair, and apparently this is what happened. Thereafter, the chair announced the result of the vote.
  10. The requirement of " ... an affirmative vote of two thirds (2/3) of the Unit Owners" seems pretty clear to me.
  11. What leads you to believe that there is any material difference?
  12. You're right. The rules which impose time limits on debate do not apply to someone who is presenting a committee report. (RONR, 11th ed., p. 388, ll. 21-25)
  13. And look at Section 35 in your copy of RONR (11th ed.) for details relating to motions to Rescind or Amend Something Previously Adopted.
  14. This is the reason why my response was written as it was. The motion that died for lack of a second may have been an incidental main motion to postpone something, or it may have been a subsidiary motion to postpone,
  15. If this motion was a main motion, the minutes should reflect that it died for lack of a second. If it was a subsidiary motion to postpone a pending main motion, it shouldn't be reported at all.
  16. Well, first of all, please refrain from using absurdities as examples. It doesn't help at all. I'm afraid that you may not be reading this section correctly. I think the section does tell us that the secretary is to record the names of all who answered "present" (in other words, announced their abstention), as well as the names of all who voted either in favor of or against the motion being voted on. Names of members who are present but who do not respond to a roll call are entered in the minutes only when, and to the extent that, it is necessary to do so to reflect the presence of a quorum.
  17. "In roll-call voting, a record of how each member voted, as well as the result of the vote, should be entered in full in the journal or minutes. If those responding to the roll call do not total a sufficient number to constitute a quorum, the chair must direct the secretary to enter the names of enough members who are present but not voting to reflect the attendance of a quorum during the vote." (RONR, 11th ed., p. 422)
  18. There should be no doubt whatsoever but that, under the rules in RONR, the secretary is to record in the minutes the names of members who respond with "present" during a roll-call vote.
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