keefe Posted January 16, 2019 at 03:34 PM Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 03:34 PM (edited) Our church's bylaws state, "the Annual Meeting is to take place during the fourth week of January." As a church our meetings have always taken place on a Sunday, if not we would never get anyone to attend the meetings. With that being said, January 20th would be Sunday in the fourth week of January, at least that is what I presume. On Sunday January 13, it had been announced during church service that our Annual Meeting would be taking place on Sunday January 27, I look at that it is the fifth week in January. As secretary, I had submitted the order of business/proposed agenda on January 11 to our office manager, she puts the meeting packet together to be handed out to the members. It was noticed that I had put the 20th as the meeting date and I was told that it was going to be on the 27th. We briefly discussed the article in our bylaws that states when it is to be and she said she would mention it to our pastors. At this point it seems that nothing could be done to change the date, and maybe nothing should be done, I am not sure. Or maybe possibly I am understanding the fourth week incorrectly, I am not sure. I do know that there are members who won't be available for the meeting on the 27th but would be on the 20th. I am just looking for some insight or advice in the situation. Thank you. Edited January 16, 2019 at 03:54 PM by keefe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lages Posted January 16, 2019 at 04:07 PM Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 04:07 PM I don't think anyone here is going to be able to help very much, as this is not really a parliamentary question. It seems to me that your church will have to decide whether a "week" starts on Sunday or Monday. Now that you've seen this issue come up, perhaps it's time to amend the bylaws to include less ambiguous language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted January 16, 2019 at 04:27 PM Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 04:27 PM I agree with Mr. Lages. This isn't really a parliamentary question. Different cultures and different countries recognize different days as the first day of the week, with Sunday and Monday being most common. You can Google it for more information. I do note, however, that the first partial week in January, 2019 starts on a Tuesday, which is not generally considered the first day of the week in the United States. I also note that January, 2019 has only three full seven day weeks, adding to the ambiguity. To resolve this problem, I agree that your church might consider amending the bylaws to set a particular day, such as the fourth Sunday of January, as your annual meeting date. That will lead to more certainty and make it easier for your members to plan in advance for the annual meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 16, 2019 at 06:32 PM Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 06:32 PM According to ISO standards for week numbers, all weeks start on a Monday, and week #1 of the year is the week containing the first Thursday of the year. So for 2019, the 27th of January would be counted as the last day of week #4. It is also the fourth Sunday of January, which might have inspired whoever set the date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefe Posted January 16, 2019 at 06:45 PM Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 06:45 PM Thank you all for your replies and insight it is greatly appreciated. We will work on amending to make it less ambiguous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmuel Gerber Posted January 16, 2019 at 07:17 PM Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 07:17 PM 44 minutes ago, Gary Novosielski said: According to ISO standards for week numbers, all weeks start on a Monday, and week #1 of the year is the week containing the first Thursday of the year. So for 2019, the 27th of January would be counted as the last day of week #4. It is also the fourth Sunday of January, which might have inspired whoever set the date. Remind me to stay away from the ISO, especially on weekends. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted January 16, 2019 at 07:35 PM Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 at 07:35 PM 16 minutes ago, Shmuel Gerber said: Remind me to stay away from the ISO, especially on weekends. 🙂 The ISO seems like they've been spending too much time at 2FP meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zev Posted January 17, 2019 at 02:24 AM Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 at 02:24 AM 7 hours ago, Shmuel Gerber said: Remind me to stay away from the ISO, especially on weekends. Yeah, according to these cats after six days of creation God rested on Sunday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 17, 2019 at 06:58 AM Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 at 06:58 AM 11 hours ago, Shmuel Gerber said: Remind me to stay away from the ISO, especially on weekends. 🙂 Well, you can't blame them for taking the word "weekend" literally and putting it at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexis Hunt Posted January 17, 2019 at 04:56 PM Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 at 04:56 PM I find it interesting that no one suggested the alternate interpretation of "between the 22nd and 28th days of the month, inclusive" as that is how I would default to interpreting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted January 18, 2019 at 03:10 AM Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 at 03:10 AM Most computer calendars that have the ability to schedule recurring events would accept a specification of "the n-th Sunday of January" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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