mcfarland Posted November 25, 2019 at 05:05 AM Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 at 05:05 AM Is it possible to "suspend the rules" at a meeting? Does this also include suspending the bylaws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hieu H. Huynh Posted November 25, 2019 at 05:13 AM Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 at 05:13 AM What are you trying to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Meed Posted November 25, 2019 at 05:15 AM Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 at 05:15 AM Robert's Rules allows a motion to suspend the rules, which is described in Section 25. This does not include suspending the bylaws, unless the bylaws provision to be suspended is "in the nature of [a] rule[] of order" (RONR (11th ed.), p. 17, l. 23). A rule of order is a rule that relates "to the orderly transaction of business in meetings and to the duties of officers in that capacity." (RONR (11th ed.), p. 15, ll. 9–11) As Mr. Huynh implies, it might be more useful to know what effect is desired by suspending the rules (and I'll probably allow the more experienced contributors to this forum to comment on your response). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Lages Posted November 25, 2019 at 02:34 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 at 02:34 PM A motion to just "suspend the rules" is not valid. Such a motion is always worded as "I move to suspend the rules and...", where the wording following describes specifically the action you wish to take that would normally be against the rules. For example - "I move to suspend the rules and take up the report of the Building Committee" at a time when reports are not in order. The motion must always specify what action you wish to take. Also as stated above, the bylaws, as a whole, are never suspendible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted November 25, 2019 at 02:34 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 at 02:34 PM (edited) 9 hours ago, mcfarland said: Is it possible to "suspend the rules" at a meeting? Does this also include suspending the bylaws? Most rules of order, with a few exceptions, can be suspended at a meeting. It depends upon the circumstances and the particular rule which it is desired to suspend.. Bylaws, with only a few exceptions, cannot be suspended. The most common exception is the one Alex M mentioned: Bylaw provisions which are in the nature of rules of order. Edited November 25, 2019 at 02:39 PM by Richard Brown Deleted all but the first paragraph. Somehow it got screwed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted November 25, 2019 at 02:37 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 at 02:37 PM (edited) 2 minutes ago, Richard Brown said: Most rules of order, with a few exceptions, can be suspended at a meeting. It depends upon the circumstances and the particular rule which it is desired to suspend.. Bylaws, with only a few exceptions, cannot be suspended. The most common exception is the one Alex him mention, Baila provisions which are in the nature of roots of water. They buy law provision which provides for its own suspension may also be suspended. The most common exception is the one Alex M mention, by law provisions which are in the nature of roots of water. A bylaw provision which provides for its own suspension may also be suspended. In order to more accurately answer your question, we need more information. You might want to ditch the dictation app or the Nawlins accent, whichever is easier. Edited November 25, 2019 at 02:37 PM by George Mervosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted November 25, 2019 at 02:40 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 at 02:40 PM (edited) 3 minutes ago, George Mervosh said: You might want to ditch the dictation app or the Nawlins accent, whichever is easier. Yeah, I caught that just as soon as I posted it and tried correcting it but it was only making things worse. I finally deleted all but the first part of the first paragraph. Edited November 25, 2019 at 02:42 PM by Richard Brown Added last sentence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted November 25, 2019 at 02:51 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 at 02:51 PM (edited) 15 minutes ago, George Mervosh said: You might want to ditch the dictation app or the Nawlins accent, whichever is easier. Ditching the cell phone and using a real computer for posting would be the easiest option! The convenience of a cell phone is hard to give up, though! I was hoping to get that corrected before somebody copied and pasted it for all of eternity! 🙂 Edited November 25, 2019 at 02:52 PM by Richard Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atul Kapur Posted November 25, 2019 at 03:41 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 at 03:41 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, George Mervosh said: [Quoting Richard Brown]: by law provisions which are in the nature of roots of water. 49 minutes ago, Richard Brown said: I was hoping to get that corrected before somebody copied and pasted it for all of eternity! George, history thanks you. 🤣 Edited November 25, 2019 at 03:42 PM by Atul Kapur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zev Posted November 25, 2019 at 06:35 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 at 06:35 PM 3 hours ago, Richard Brown said: The most common exception is the one Alex him mention, Baila provisions which are in the nature of roots of water. C'est ce pittoresque patois français que vous utilisez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted November 25, 2019 at 07:03 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 at 07:03 PM 3 hours ago, Atul Kapur said: George, history thanks you. 🤣 Having had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Brown in New Orleans and elsewhere, I would have transcribed what he really said pretty much like the dictation app, but I'm not in the mood to test the goodwill of our un-wrathful moderators any longer with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted November 26, 2019 at 03:10 AM Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 at 03:10 AM Hey, i’m glad I was able to provide a morning chuckle for so many friends .. and a few other folks who wonder what the heck is wrong with me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted December 1, 2019 at 03:46 AM Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 at 03:46 AM Haiku Bylaws provisions Which are in the nature of Roots of water, grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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