celia Posted May 21, 2010 at 03:59 AM Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 at 03:59 AM My husband and I are on the same board of directors. I made a motion and he 2nd it. The president said that is forbidden as we are married. I think he is way wrong. He said we are not to ever do that again. When we serve on the board we are 2 sepetate people not to be viewed as a married couple but as 2 different directors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Cisar Posted May 21, 2010 at 07:13 AM Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 at 07:13 AM My husband and I are on the same board of directors. I made a motion and he 2nd it. The president said that is forbidden as we are married. I think he is way wrong. He said we are not to ever do that again. When we serve on the board we are 2 sepetate people not to be viewed as a married couple but as 2 different directors.You are correct. Next time he objects, ask him for the page number. He won't be able to give it as there is none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Margaret Posted May 21, 2010 at 08:35 PM Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 at 08:35 PM You are correct. Next time he objects, ask him for the page number. He won't be able to give it as there is none.That's assuming, of course, that there is nothing in the bylaws about spouses on the same board. Robert's Rules has no such prohibition, but individual bylaws would over-rule Robert's Rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted May 21, 2010 at 08:43 PM Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 at 08:43 PM That's assuming, of course, that there is nothing in the bylaws about spouses on the same board. Robert's Rules has no such prohibition, but individual bylaws would over-rule Robert's Rules.Well, this husband and wife are already on the board. The question was about the wife seconding the husband's motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. J! Posted May 23, 2010 at 06:26 AM Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 at 06:26 AM Who it is who seconds a motion, and even whether a motion receives a second in a board of about a dozen members or less, is not nearly as important as your president appears to believe. See RONR p. 34 - 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Serge L. Mansur Posted May 24, 2010 at 06:34 PM Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 at 06:34 PM I am pretty certain Robert's RONR does not disallow this, I would suggest it not be done. It is just an invitation for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Harrison Posted May 24, 2010 at 06:38 PM Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 at 06:38 PM I am pretty certain Robert's RONR does not disallow this, I would suggest it not be done. It is just an invitation for trouble.Maybe so but the problem belongs with those who have the problem and not Celia and her husband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted May 24, 2010 at 06:43 PM Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 at 06:43 PM I am pretty certain Robert's RONR does not disallow this, I would suggest it not be done. It is just an invitation for trouble.It would be trouble for Mrs. M. and I.......She always wins when we disagree 30 years of losing isn't fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted May 24, 2010 at 06:58 PM Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 at 06:58 PM "Mrs. M and me". Where are standards?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. J. Posted May 24, 2010 at 09:44 PM Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 at 09:44 PM "Mrs. M and me". Where are standards?!?Where is the "the?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted May 24, 2010 at 09:54 PM Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 at 09:54 PM Where is the "the?" Which raises the question of editing a post after there's been a reply. I think we all appreciate the ability to go back right away and fix a typo but, once someone has replied to a post, I don't think that post should be editable.Not that Mr. Stackpole (or anyone else) would do this but he could, for example, edit his post to insert the "the" and make J.J.'s reply look, well, confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Martin Posted May 24, 2010 at 10:51 PM Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 at 10:51 PM I am pretty certain Robert's RONR does not disallow this, I would suggest it not be done. It is just an invitation for trouble.I strongly disagree. A member who feels that a motion should be considered has every right to second it. The fact that the motion maker is the member's spouse is immaterial. Just as in all other cases, the member should make such decisions based on the merits of the motion itself, and not on the identity of the motion maker. Celia had it exactly right when she said:When we serve on the board we are 2 sepetate people not to be viewed as a married couple but as 2 different directors.Of course, as noted by Mr. J!, if this is a small board (about a dozen members or fewer), motions don't need to be seconded at all, which would make the whole argument even sillier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Goldsworthy Posted May 24, 2010 at 10:57 PM Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 at 10:57 PM I think we all appreciate the ability to go back right away and fix a typoThat is a compelling reason to refrain from posting at all, if the post's content is only for the sake of spelling, grammar, syntax, number of words, missing "nots", etc.• Each post should focus on the parliamentary issue.• Insults should not be allowed.• Rhetorical questions, and Socratic questions, ought not be replied to, except by the original poster, as the original poster understands the logical point or the emphasized idea, or the illogical connection between contradictory statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Margaret Posted May 25, 2010 at 08:37 PM Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 at 08:37 PM Well, this husband and wife are already on the board. The question was about the wife seconding the husband's motion.I'd go back and amend my posting to say "That's assuming, of course, that there is nothing in the bylaws about rules about spouses on the same board. Robert's Rules has no such prohibition, but individual bylaws would over-rule Robert's Rules.", but don't wish to amend a replied to post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted May 25, 2010 at 08:56 PM Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 at 08:56 PM I can understand why the President would think this way - it is a matter of appearance. It may appear that you and your husband are trying to force an issue rather than trying to do a good job. The President may be wrong by RONR, but it can make sense in a common sense point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted May 25, 2010 at 09:13 PM Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 at 09:13 PM I can understand why the President would think this way - it is a matter of appearance. It may appear that you and your husband are trying to force an issue rather than trying to do a good job. The President may be wrong by RONR, but it can make sense in a common sense point of view.Whatever the President thinks, he has no business, as chair, to voice any such opinion. If the husband and wife have been elected as two members of the board, that's what they are... period and end of story. If the membership didn't want them both there, the membership could have voted differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted May 25, 2010 at 09:23 PM Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 at 09:23 PM but don't wish to amend a replied to post...That's admirable. Let's hope the administrators make it a rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted May 25, 2010 at 09:36 PM Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 at 09:36 PM That's admirable. Let's hope the administrators make it a rule.The rule is that you can't change what I say (correctly) that you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmtcastle Posted May 25, 2010 at 09:42 PM Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 at 09:42 PM The rule is that you can't change what I say (correctly) that you said.But you (and I don't mean you) can change what you said.It's analogous to amending approved minutes. The original text should remain inviolate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted May 25, 2010 at 09:46 PM Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 at 09:46 PM But you (and I don't mean you) can change what you said.It's analogous to amending approved minutes. The original text should remain inviolate.But I cannot deny that, in your response, you correctly quoted what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trina Posted May 25, 2010 at 09:49 PM Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 at 09:49 PM But you (and I don't mean you) can change what you said.It's analogous to amending approved minutes. The original text should remain inviolate.My interpretation of Mr. Honemann's comment is that once someone else quotes the original text, the original poster has no access to modify the quoted portion. That's because it's inside someone else's post, which the original poster cannot edit.Thus, if you see a gaffe that you wish to immortalize before the original poster fixes it, quote quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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