Andy Travis Posted March 6, 2015 at 11:51 PM Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 at 11:51 PM If a board amends previously approved minutes does the secretary amend the original minutes and make a note somewhere on those minutes that they are amended minutes and the date that they were amended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar Guest Posted March 6, 2015 at 11:55 PM Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 at 11:55 PM The approved minutes should remain unaltered but a note in the margins, referencing the minutes of the meeting at which they were amended, is appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Travis Posted March 7, 2015 at 03:15 PM Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 at 03:15 PM Are the amendments accepted through unanimous consent or is a vote needed since a motion to amend something previously adopted was put before the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted March 7, 2015 at 03:20 PM Report Share Posted March 7, 2015 at 03:20 PM "Unanimous Consent" is, in effect, a form of voting where there is no expressed objection to the adoption of the motion in question. So the answer to your "either... or..." question is "Yes". (At least that is the logician's answer. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 9, 2015 at 06:12 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 at 06:12 PM Are the amendments accepted through unanimous consent or is a vote needed since a motion to amend something previously adopted was put before the board? It's the usual process for unanimous consent in nearly any context: If there is no objection, the motion passes without a vote. If there is any objection, the question is put to a vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Honemann Posted March 9, 2015 at 06:53 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 at 06:53 PM It's the usual process for unanimous consent in nearly any context: If there is no objection, the motion passes without a vote. If there is any objection, the question is put to a vote. I'm afraid that it is definitely not usual to ask for unanimous consent for the adoption of a motion to Amend Something Previously Adopted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Travis Posted March 10, 2015 at 06:26 PM Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 at 06:26 PM So by what Mr. Honemann is saying, then if the motion to amend the previously adopted minutes is put forth, does a formal vote need to take place and not just unanimous consent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Brown Posted March 10, 2015 at 06:35 PM Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 at 06:35 PM So by what Mr. Honemann is saying, then if the motion to amend the previously adopted minutes is put forth, does a formal vote need to take place and not just unanimous consent?No, that's not what Mr. Honemann said. Mr. Honemann was responding to a comment by Mr. Novosielski. What Mr. Honemann said, or what I believe he was trying to say, is that it is not usual to ask for unanimous consent to amend something previously adopted. A motion to amend something previously adopted, including an amendment to minutes previously approved, may absolutely be done by unanimous consent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Mervosh Posted March 10, 2015 at 06:35 PM Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 at 06:35 PM So by what Mr. Honemann is saying, then if the motion to amend the previously adopted minutes is put forth, does a formal vote need to take place and not just unanimous consent? I think all he means is it's typically best just to state the question and dispose of it in the normal manner as it's not suited well for questions such as this. "In cases where there seems to be no opposition in routine business or on questions of little importance, time can often be saved by the procedure of unanimous consent, or as it was formerly also called, general consent. Action in this manner is in accord with the principle that rules are designed for the protection of the minority and generally need not be strictly enforced when there is no minority to protect." RONR (11th ed.), p. 54 (emphasis added by me) Motions to amend something previously adopted typically aren't routine or of little importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstackpo Posted March 10, 2015 at 06:36 PM Report Share Posted March 10, 2015 at 06:36 PM I don't THINK so; it is just that u-c for that particular motion is a tad unusual. There is no formal rule requiring a "visible" or auditory vote, although the book recommends such for any super-majority votes - p. 401 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Novosielski Posted March 11, 2015 at 12:50 PM Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 at 12:50 PM I'm afraid that it is definitely not usual to ask for unanimous consent for the adoption of a motion to Amend Something Previously Adopted. That's right. I didn't mean to say that ASPA is usually adopted by unanimous consent, but rather to say that if a request for unanimous consent is made in this context (and it would be in order to do so), then it is handled in the way that is usual for such requests. This would probably be a rare occurrence, but it's not hard to imagine a scenario: If someone discovered that a resolution was passed to "pant the clubhouse" it might be easy to get unanimous consent to amend that resolution, as long as the sewing and installation of the pants was not already completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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