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George Mervosh

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  1. Since it's quiet around here, can someone post an example of such a motion? Yes, I need to get out more.
  2. Yes, he must. RONR (12th ed.), 46:18
  3. You are correct that statements and comments do not belong in the minutes. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to simply note that this particular item of business was called for and either note that no statements/comments were made or that members offered statements/comments without detailing what they were. But that's about it.
  4. Yes. Any member may move to take the vote by ballot. It requires a majority vote to adopt that motion.
  5. First off, the suggestion that it's "his agenda" that the group is bound by is incorrect. See the answer to FAQ#14 https://robertsrules.com/frequently-asked-questions/#faqs Next, if your group has adopted RONR and meets within quarterly time intervals, the standard order of business (see 41:5ff) applies and there's no need to adopt an agenda. If your group's bylaws or special rules don't define what a discussion item is or what an action item is, then it seems that the chair just made this up since those things aren't defined in RONR either, though we do see those terms used here by posters from time to time but I have no clue what they mean.
  6. No. An assembly allowing a non member to speak (OTHER than allowing them to speak in debate on a pending debatable motion ) suspends no rule.
  7. You won't if you're referring to addressing the assembly and not debating a pending question. It is an ordinary main motion and a majority vote is required since it doesn't fit any of the exception shown in 10:8 7). Oh, and what Mr. Elsman said.
  8. If the bylaws don't expressly authorize electronic meetings, no one should be attempting to set one up.
  9. Do your bylaws expressly authorize electronic meetings?
  10. You can show them 9:30-31, but they'll probably quibble about what a "face-to-face" meeting means in 9:31. And it's one room or area, not area or location.
  11. I just have a question. If I ask that my motion be withdrawn and it is put to a vote, is it proper to allow the minutes reflect that I made this request and the result of the vote?
  12. If the statement hasn't been given yet why would the minutes of a past meeting where there was no statement offered be amended?
  13. According to this, the Seventh Edition. https://robertsrules.com/our-history/#edition-timeline
  14. Regarding a point of order, 23:2 2) states "Can be applied to any breach of the assembly's rules." 23:2 7) states "Is normally ruled upon by the chair. No vote is taken unless the chair is in doubt or his ruling is appealed. " I'm inclined to think "any" means any and there are no additional exceptions in 7), so I think the answer to your first question is, yes. The board will have the final say if the chair puts the question to the assembly, or if they simply appeal the chair's ruling.
  15. Okay. R.S.M tacked onto this thread with a different question with almost no facts and didn't mention it. So that's why I asked.
  16. The entire process described is not the procedure according to RONR. At an annual meeting of the members, the members should authorize the board or appoint a committee to approve the minutes. Those approved minutes should be sent out to the next year's gathering. Even though those approved minutes are not normally read, the members will still have an opportunity to offer an amendment if there is any material error in the approved minutes. See RONR (12th ed.) 48:12 and 48:15. But since that wasn't done I don't see anything wrong with the current Secretary submitting her draft for approval. Follow RONR's procedure this year and these questions won't arise.
  17. If the alleged violation of the rules meets one of the exceptions to the timeliness requirement for a point of order (RONR 12th ed. 23:6) you can raise a point of order at the next meeting. The chair will rule on the point and the ruling can likely be appealed (RONR 12th ed. §24). I would suggest you read 23:5 and 23:6. See if FAQ#14 answers your question. https://robertsrules.com/frequently-asked-questions/#faqs
  18. Did you read Mr. Gerber's comment in post #2?
  19. No one. The Secretary, if there is one, or if not, any other member should call the meeting to order and preside over the election of a chairman pro tem to preside over the meeting.
  20. Robert's Rules don't say. The number will obviously vary greatly between different types of organizations. No. A tie vote defeats a motion so there is nothing to break.
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