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  1. George Mervosh
    Thank, SG. I thought the Dayquil was getting to me.
  2. George Mervosh
    Continue voting until someone receives a majority of the votes cast. Also, nominations could be re-opened and perhaps a dark horse candidate will emerge. Oh, and it's always best to start a new thread rather than jumping in with a new question on an existing thread.
  3. George Mervosh
    Would such a rule, eliminate the board's ability to go into executive session and exclude the non-board members, and would it also change the rule for removing non-board members from the hall in case of a breach of order? If not, then how does it "relate to the orderly transaction of business in meetings and to the duties of officers in that connection." (RONR, 11th ed., pg. 15)
  4. George Mervosh
    The membership should adopt a motion to go into executive session before hearing those minutes.
  5. George Mervosh
    1) Non-board members have no right to attend a board meeting. 2) Yes.
  6. George Mervosh
    Well, after you have a few NIPs, you'll need a NAP.
  7. George Mervosh
    "that" NAP?
  8. George Mervosh
    Please don't bother Josh on the weekends. Try p. 470, ll. 15-17 and p. 251, l. 28ff
  9. George Mervosh
    If the bylaws stated that the voting shall be by electronic means is it possible that, in and of itself, would be sufficient to disallow write-in votes? Not a rhetorical question, by the way.
  10. George Mervosh
    "I believe that nothing voted on in this meeting was valid " While I disagree with your statement, I certainly agree with the title of the thread. I'd suggest the assembly get a few lessons in parliamentary procedure but it doesn't sound like they'd be too receptive to that, sadly.
  11. George Mervosh
    That's almost certainly not going to be the case if it was a properly called meeting, so what's the problem? (for those of us who can watch the video but don't want to waste 24 minutes doing so - I got bored with the shouting match)
  12. George Mervosh
    Kim - If you don't think the assembly is the one being protected, please explain why the rules states: "In order that there may be no interference with the assembly's having the benefit of its committees' matured judgment, motions to close or limit debate are not allowed in committees" (RONR 11th ed., p. 500, ll. 18-21). The book is essentially saying that it's the assembly being protected in the bolded portion. And forget the Board analogy. Boards take final action almost all of the time, committees don't as they are a tool used by the assembly to help make a decision. Well, I deleted it because it wasn't worded the way I wanted it to be worded, but Josh covered it:
  13. George Mervosh
    Dr. Stackpole is citing the 11th Edition of RONR, which is the current edition. See this http://www.robertsrules.com/book.html
  14. George Mervosh
    "If an individual does not meet the qualifications for the post established in the bylaws, his or her election is tantamount to adoption of a main motion that conflicts with the bylaws." RONR (11th ed.), p.445, ll. 19-22 A point of order can be raised at the next meeting.
  15. George Mervosh
    Maybe he read the link Mr. Arnold provided.
  16. George Mervosh
    Making up bylaw wording is hazardous. If, in the chair's opinion the bylaws say he's not eligible to hold that office, he can rule the nomination out of order. I think it's that simple. Of course his ruling can be appealed in most cases. And again, as Mr. Brown notes, that might not be the case here, we just don't know.
  17. George Mervosh
    A member need not be present to be nominated or elected, but since his consent is required if he's absent in order for the election to be final, it's a nice idea for that member to submit something in writing saying he will accept the position if elected. (That last part about a note is not in RONR). (Oh and since my response is similar to Mr. Honemann's that make me feel better, and it should make you feel better. He just doesn't like to type as much. )
  18. George Mervosh
    What if he is not eligible to hold that position? If not, at what point would the presiding officer make such a ruling? It's crazy to think they have to wait until the guy is elected in order to rule him ineligible. (I'm not suggesting that's why this presiding officer said what he said.)
  19. George Mervosh
    Really? It seems to me Nancy did more than her due diligence in raising a point of order. Her point was ignored without a ruling, therefore there doesn't seem to be an opportunity to have an appeal. Does it invalidate business? No. Was it minor in the parliamentary sense? No. Ignoring her in this case, based upon what Nancy has said, is not a minor error or a proper way to preside.
  20. George Mervosh
    Which other Dan? Our other Dan? What's our other other Dan, chopped liver?
  21. George Mervosh
    I'm not sure I understand this, but I'll try. I take it the call was sent and it did not contain any motions which required previous notice. Now someone wants to adopt a motion at that meeting which required previous notice. If I have it right to this point, another call can be sent out for the special meeting, this time including the motion which requires previous notice, assuming of course you have time to do it. You can't short-change the members on the number of days notice is required. Ugh, I think I'm missing something here. Am i?
  22. George Mervosh
    Yes. If the motion you wish to consider and adopt requires previous notice, a call to a special meeting can be the vehicle used to give such notice, provided that the special meeting call is sent in the time frame required to give previous notice. So if the motion requires 30 days previous notice, the call must be sent in time so that 30 days notice is given. Does that answer your question?
  23. George Mervosh
    That's completely up to the member, but no rule requires a member to abstain or otherwise not vote.
  24. George Mervosh
    As Mr. Huynh points out, you, as president, do not have unilateral authority to allow a non-member to stay, only the assembly has that authority. Just ask if there is any objection to her sitting in on the meeting. If there's none, she's in, and if there is an objection a majority vote will decide the matter.
  25. George Mervosh
    The title of the thread might be of help.
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